Dark World Society

Yu-Gi-Oh! Discussions => Advanced Format Deck Forum => Topic started by: PkMn Trainer on May 31, 2011, 03:07:24 pm Central Daylight Time



Title: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 31, 2011, 03:07:24 pm Central Daylight Time
Total: 40
Outfitted in Gold Player's Choice sleeves

Monsters: 17
3 Grapha, Dragon God of Dark World
1 Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World - Gold
1 Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World
3 Snow, Magician of Dark World
3 Broww, Huntsman of Dark World
1 Sangan - Gold
2 Trance Archfiend
1 Doomcaliber Knight - Ultra
1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole - Parallel
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

Spells: 15
3 The Gates of Dark World
2 Dark World Dealings - Ultimate
1 Dark World Lightning
1 Card Destruction - Super
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Pot of Duality
1 Foolish Burial - Duel Terminal
1 Book of Moon
1 Monster Reborn - Ultra
1 Dark Hole - Super
1 Heavy Storm - Super
1 Mystical Space Typhoon - Ultra

Traps: 08
2 Skill Drain
1 Solemn Judgment - Ultra
1 Mirror Force - Ultra
1 Torrential Tribute - Ultra
1 Bottomless Trap Hole - Gold
2 Compulsory Evaluation Device - Starfoil


Extra Deck: 15
Code:
1 Hieratic Sun Dragon Overlord of Heliopolis
1 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
1 Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Maestroke the Symphony Djinn
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Dark End Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Ancient Sacred Wyvern - Ultimate
1 Dark Highlander
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Ally of Justice Catastor


Side Deck: 15
Code:
1 Fabled Raven
1 Trance Archfiend
2 Snowman Eater
2 D.D. Crow
2 Cyber Dragon
1 Dark World Lightning
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Burial from a Different Dimension
2 Light-Imprisoning Mirror
1 Compulsory Evacuation Device


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on May 31, 2011, 05:15:58 pm Central Daylight Time
hows dragge down to the grave working hmmm its like a good tech for dark world and good replacement for side against DW heheh


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 31, 2011, 05:45:04 pm Central Daylight Time
It's the **** best, Bakura.  EVERY Dark World Duelist needs to run that card now.  Peek at their hand, force them to drop one... It's seriously good stuff, man. :P

I recommend you try my build.
;)


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on May 31, 2011, 06:01:18 pm Central Daylight Time
Hmm... where did you copy and past that deck from Trainer???

It's not like you to run Sillva over Goldd... wtf?

And 3 Beiige??? Dude?


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on May 31, 2011, 06:16:00 pm Central Daylight Time
Also, I don't see solidarity in there anywhere???


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 31, 2011, 06:44:29 pm Central Daylight Time
Well, the Chaos Deck was just mediocre.  It still had major bad hands that were just unexplainable.  I don't like just being able to play Raiou and maybe a Goldd/Sillva or relying on Spirit Reaper stall.  Better than before, but it's not what I plan to play. :-\  The meta easily overwhelms these average Decks.

So, I thought "If all o' ya'll are sayin' Pure World's good, then I might as well try it since Chaos ain't goin' so well."  I had sort of a blaugh build until I quickly thought of Dragged Down.  Gooood stuff, yo.  It can't be as hard to play now that Heavy Storm's been gone for so long, and when just about all your monsters are DW, there should be absolutely no problem.  Any Normal Spells Set for Dragged Down can just be used later the same turn.

We all know every meta Deck carries dependence on Atk/1500- monsters.  If I run a speed-focused Deck, I'll drop Snows and draw quicker, and be much more likely to Summon my DW.  So, 2 DDV are perfect.  Props to you for bringing it back to memory, of course. :P

When I first posted this, I actually had 3 Solidarity, but I quickly changed it afterwards.  The simple boost from Gate was enough.  Though I just played a few games, I wanted to prepare for cases in which I was not able to get a jump start.  That's when I took Solid's out for real defense.  DWL/Grapha + BTH cover a lot.

Bakura and BSA also mentioned Synchro Summoning was not needed to win, and the Chaos build sorta proved that true.  The beatdown power of Dark World is simple and effective.  I actually like this kind of play better. :P

I don't find myself swarming at all, but the Drag/DWL/Grapha disruption + CONSISTENCY was more than I asked for.  Idk it just works for me somehow.  Gate getting destroyed makes you cringe though. :'(

I took Bakura's advice on Ceruli.  From my plays in the first Solidarity build, I noticed there wasn't really all that much for Goldd to destroy
(considering DWL/Grapha) if I had Ceruli in those situations.  Most of the stuff was still in the opponent's hand.  If this was real life, the opponent's hand would not shuffle after Dragged Down (like it does on Duel Net), and Sillva would hurt even more. >:D  "Aw nah I'm takin' it all!"


EDIT: LOL I MEANT BROWW

No f**kin' way in HELL will Beiige be in my Deck. >:(


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on May 31, 2011, 07:09:26 pm Central Daylight Time
look like DDttG will be add more control on DW hmmm may be i will put 2 and minus 1 on DWD heheh hmmm start to hunt them before it price sky high for now will try it on DN. ddtg is like instant trapdust shoot on youropp.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 31, 2011, 09:11:58 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah, I was filled with joy to see its effects on my opponent. :)
__

Beat GB's earlier today and beat Tengu Plant Synchro just right now.  Snow, Grapha, and DWL wipe fields pretty easily.

VS Tengu Plant Synchro

Highlights
My opponent went first.  Which isn't always since we have the above combo. ^-^  That's how I cleared his field on my first turn.  Because I went through a lot of cards to do so, the Duel started a little slow.  I was only able to Summon a Goldd w/ Gate & Card D. in hand.  Things picked up again 3 turns later.

It was hard for him to recover from what happened on my first turn.  He couldn't get Tytannial on me 'cause I had Gate & Grapha after returning Goldd.  I Card D'd a Broww & Goldd into some good stuff. ;D  He tried Torrenting, but I Stunned that.  He tried to make an Armory Arm + Lv:4 Spore comeback, but I BTH'd Armory Arm.  He drew Monster Reborn the turn after to revive Grapha, but I Mirror Forced.  Charged Ryko was forced to pop Grapha and leave my Set Trap Stun... :P  

My opponent admitted defeat his next turn.  He was basically top-decking already.  I would have either popped whatever he Set with Gate -> Grapha, and Trap Stunned again if needed. ;)

EDIT: I will admit I had 2 weak opening hands before my Duel with Tengu.  One of them was just dumb, and the other one was Ceruli & Broww + DWL and nothing more, really. :-\

Still, this is the best and most reliable Deck I've made, with you guys' help.
;P  Doing well against meta without sacking was unheard of to me. :o


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 01, 2011, 05:20:32 am Central Daylight Time
make some proxy deck and test it out to my friend gk decks, the DDttG looks good on actual much good than DWD but think 2 DWD and 2 DDttG is much better on a pure build, when i have no ddttG i usualy have low monster on hand, hmmm really liking DDttG hehhe, also SS of grapha destroying or negating it is a -1 to the opp. heheh........


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 01, 2011, 09:40:36 am Central Daylight Time
oh cool. I have a new version of the fabled world placer under the new dw fabled strat discussion. I want you to test it Trainer and Bakura.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 01, 2011, 05:29:37 pm Central Daylight Time
make some proxy deck and test it out to my friend gk decks, the DDttG looks good on actual much good than DWD but think 2 DWD and 2 DDttG is much better on a pure build, when i have no ddttG i usualy have low monster on hand, hmmm really liking DDttG hehhe, also SS of grapha destroying or negating it is a -1 to the opp. heheh........

;D See, I told ya.  It's great. ;)  Drag is sorta poor in hybrid builds.


oh cool. I have a new version of the fabled world placer under the new dw fabled strat discussion. I want you to test it Trainer and Bakura.

We can play next week for sure.  Do you have AIM?  That would be the best way to confirm we are both present.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 01, 2011, 06:12:50 pm Central Daylight Time
hmm question about DDttg if one of you have no monster on hand can you activate DDttG hmmm...
on artik i would try the build i have running some DW fabled stuff also but did not yet that good


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 01, 2011, 06:24:25 pm Central Daylight Time
 :-\Ok. Hey bakura, I would appreciate your help alot seeing as your the upmost authority on Fabled.

and is AIM like an AOL product??? I hate AOL.

Run my new Fabled World Trainer and let me know.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 01, 2011, 08:37:47 pm Central Daylight Time
hmm question about DDttg if one of you have no monster on hand can you activate DDttG hmmm...
on artik i would try the build i have running some DW fabled stuff also but did not yet that good

You must have a card in your hand to play it.


:-\and is AIM like an AOL product??? I hate AOL.

Run my new Fabled World Trainer and let me know.

AOL has the best instant messenger.

Sure, it looks pretty aggro. :P  I hope it maintains Pure World's consistency.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 03, 2011, 01:45:14 am Central Daylight Time
BOOM!  Update!

Gettin' better 'nd better!  I think the Ravens work really well again... that or DN stacked me well. :P  Morphing Jar's future is in doubt.  I think now that DW can keep up with most Decks, it is OK.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 03, 2011, 03:17:59 pm Central Daylight Time
TRI-PLE Post!!!

I happened to see a host on DN testing new DW. >:D

Simple tips for the 1st round in a mirror match:
1) You might want to go second, especially if the enemy doesn't know you're using DW.  Profit off of his first turn DWD. ;)  It can be a great choice if you have a feeling you won't begin with a good hand. :D  I followed my gut and it worked.  Made a mid-late game comeback FTW! ;D
2) Avoid Setting your important S/T's first.  Because of how we think, we'll naturally do this without some thinking. Lightning will strike you.
3) Stardust Dragon ought to be your #1 choice to prevent DWL & Grapha discards.  Of course, that means you'll need some defense down... it'll be safe though. :)
4) Be careful about using Dragged Down.  If you know the opponent's holding onto his searched DW Spell, then definitely Drag it down.

__

Edit: Before I post too crazy, I'm gonna say I've swapped BTH for Prisons.  I find a few situations in which I draw BTH too late to get rid of the threat.  Dimensional Prisons do not have this drawback.  When I remove a threat usually does not matter.  Why not have that flexibility then?


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 05, 2011, 02:55:37 pm Central Daylight Time
Bump.

Morphing Jar is staying. :)  Discarding DW & hand disruption outweigh the times it can (+) the opponent too much.

1 Tour Guide has been added.  Just enough to take Sangan, or Broww for Grapha's Summon when you need it.  I'd like to use 2 once Xys are introduced in the TCG.  Right now, running more than 1 Guide + Foolish Burial just to get Grapha is not worth it.  You'll get more out of Traps.

Since Tengu/Plant Decks are using 2/3 Guides just for Sangan, the price of this card is up. :'(  Hopefully its price will drop or it will be reprinted by SD21's release. :-\


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 05, 2011, 04:08:46 pm Central Daylight Time
so how did my deck test?


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 05, 2011, 05:46:37 pm Central Daylight Time
Celri got in the way of Morphing Jar and Dragged Down quite a few times.  I kicked him out for Goldd. 8]  I noticed I was in need of a beatstick many times when I had Celri, too.
__

so how did my deck test?

You saw my conclusion. :P


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 05, 2011, 06:32:23 pm Central Daylight Time
Hmm? naw. Just answer sraight forward. No need to be difficult.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 05, 2011, 08:02:29 pm Central Daylight Time
I'm serious, you read it, didn't you?  That 3 paragraph response that concluded with "regular Dark World build is better?"

You responded with "Did you test my Deck or not?" :D
(I changed 2 S/T's or something).


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 06, 2011, 08:08:31 pm Central Daylight Time
Bam!  Back on Pojo! (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?p=21890135#post21890135)


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 07, 2011, 01:11:02 am Central Daylight Time
nice thread @ pojo unfortunately i have no account yet on pojo's just reading some thread there like your thread again nice deck thread heheh


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 07, 2011, 07:57:43 am Central Daylight Time
when are you going to make one? It doesn't take long. ;D


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 07, 2011, 02:44:26 pm Central Daylight Time
nice thread @ pojo unfortunately i have no account yet on pojo's just reading some thread there like your thread again nice deck thread heheh

Thanks, Bakura. :P  That makes me wonder - are you an active member of that Filipino OCG site?


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 07, 2011, 05:15:02 pm Central Daylight Time
yup i'm active a year or 2 ago but not replying so much recently hehehe, also like on pojo i only read some stuff and also a member on the filipino ocg site 


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 07, 2011, 09:26:21 pm Central Daylight Time
Busy doin' life stuff. ;)


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: BigStinkinApe on June 08, 2011, 09:23:27 am Central Daylight Time
I'm not feeling tourguide..I'd rather tech night assailiant in it's place so I can spam jars. Also, seven tools, while not as fast as stun, f**ks over plays made to stop your DW's.Bar that, I am loving this deck.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 08, 2011, 06:31:54 pm Central Daylight Time
I'm not feeling tourguide..I'd rather tech night assailiant in it's place so I can spam jars. Also, seven tools, while not as fast as stun, ****s over plays made to stop your DW's.Bar that, I am loving this deck.

D: Guide gets me a +2 if I bounce Broww for Grapha, but I'll go ahead and try Cereal over her for now.
I thought about 7 Tools.  I'm gonna test that out, too.

:) Thanks BSA.  What are your opinions on Beiige, eh?
xD  Maybe it's 'cause I'm not playing with Xys, but I don't really think it's worth much.
___

-1 Dimensional Prison...
_____+1 Mind Crush >:D
__________So devilish.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Fever on June 14, 2011, 01:58:58 am Central Daylight Time
Good. You've learned.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 15, 2011, 01:30:23 pm Central Daylight Time
Good. You've learned.

>_>; Hey, you know he was crap before.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 15, 2011, 02:14:40 pm Central Daylight Time
using shadowpriestess of ohm and lvl eater for my fun deck post it later it on the advance declist section th_bloodysmiley.gif
hehe sory wrong post thought its officail dark world discusion lol

It's OK. :)  I've cleaned out your posts.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Fever on June 16, 2011, 09:07:32 am Central Daylight Time
yup i'm active a year or 2 ago but not replying so much recently hehehe, also like on pojo i only read some stuff and also a member on the filipino ocg site 

How could you?  :( Especially with the Dark World support on the way.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 16, 2011, 02:13:20 pm Central Daylight Time
huh?? buck2.gif


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 16, 2011, 04:22:58 pm Central Daylight Time
Oh cool, my sig is back. :)  Broken image yesterday.

Bakura made his first post on my thread. :)  I think he was only there briefly since this place was down.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Bakura_yami on June 16, 2011, 04:57:17 pm Central Daylight Time
yeah, just checking some stuff there heheh  buck2.gif


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Fever on June 17, 2011, 08:46:10 am Central Daylight Time
Beiige was still great back then. You should have seen how great he was when I playing Dark World when Card of Safe Return was at 3. Two even...

Anyway, I agree with BSA. So far from what I have seen. I'm not liking Tour Guide. But I will do more research.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 17, 2011, 10:01:27 am Central Daylight Time
hmm... is there a fiend with an effect close to breaker's???


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 17, 2011, 11:53:44 am Central Daylight Time
Beiige was still great back then. You should have seen how great he was when I playing Dark World when Card of Safe Return was at 3. Two even...

Anyway, I agree with BSA. So far from what I have seen. I'm not liking Tour Guide. But I will do more research.

Unless you didn't max on G&S, Beiige would make Dark World Decks more inconsistent.

That reminds me: I'm going to update the Deck list right now.  Doomcaliber Knights have replaced Tour Guide & Sangan.  They were too slow.  DCK is just the kinda support I needed.



hmm... is there a fiend with an effect close to breaker's???
D: Not that I know of...


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 17, 2011, 08:30:04 pm Central Daylight Time
 ::)You could just normal summon beiige way back then also.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 17, 2011, 08:43:12 pm Central Daylight Time
But he was only a ATK/1600 monster.  What good is that?

Now he can recover Grapha.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: ArkticDark on June 17, 2011, 09:18:24 pm Central Daylight Time
Do you use a snow to grab your 1 single beiige???


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on June 17, 2011, 11:01:43 pm Central Daylight Time
Do you use a snow to grab your 1 single beiige???

If I have to. :-\  That usually happens when Raven discarded 2 Snows and a Gate/DWL is ready.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: kevin121 on July 02, 2011, 09:29:49 am Central Daylight Time
Why dont i see beige in there? Take out sangan and 1 silvaa for 2 beigges.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: kevin121 on July 02, 2011, 09:37:16 am Central Daylight Time
Beigge makes your deck more consistent. TRUST ME, hes a fuc**** fodder for each thing you have.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 02, 2011, 10:49:33 am Central Daylight Time
NEVER.

. . .

Actually I forgot to update this thread to match Pojo's. :D  I have 1 Beiige.  I might go -2 Lords; +1 Grapha, +1 Beiige/Broww later.  Once I get an actual Deck to test, I may make further changes.  Dueling Network can be tricky.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark World!!
Post by: Sillva87 on July 02, 2011, 01:54:02 pm Central Daylight Time
hey sorry to spam your convo but this is one of the ways i can get to arktic fever and trainer, guys check please check out my gravekeeper deck, i've made updates and check out the heart goldd trainer post, i've also updated that deck.. all advice and suggestions welcomed as usual.. later.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 04, 2011, 10:02:45 pm Central Daylight Time
As you can see, I've changed the title. ;)

DAD really does work irl.  What was I thinking lol. :D

Cyril is also showing promise in the real world... Let's see if he will last.

___

hey sorry to spam your convo but this is one of the ways i can get to arktic fever and trainer, guys check please check out my gravekeeper deck, i've made updates and check out the heart goldd trainer post, i've also updated that deck.. all advice and suggestions welcomed as usual.. later.

Got this taken care of. ;)


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: Bakura_yami on July 05, 2011, 12:46:45 am Central Daylight Time
DAD is splashable on DW hehe as i can see DW now can control their graveyard also can reach to the point that no monster on gy hehe but think dad is good in here hehehe


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 05, 2011, 11:57:32 am Central Daylight Time
Yeah.  Forget Dueling Network.  It makes me very happy to easily control the Graveyard. :)  It's like playing 4 Graphas. xD


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: ArkticDark on July 05, 2011, 12:59:40 pm Central Daylight Time
 ::)Why did it take you so long to realize.  wheelchair.gif


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 05, 2011, 01:33:46 pm Central Daylight Time
I just made a proxied Deck last Saturday after buying GS4. -_-'''  I did say "DAD really works irl."  Before I only played on the deceptive Dueling Network.


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 09, 2011, 04:20:33 pm Central Daylight Time
Finalized build. :)  Consistency has been worked out. 
I encourage everyone to try this style of Dark World!
;D


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: Fever on July 09, 2011, 04:45:49 pm Central Daylight Time
Only two years later!  ::)


Title: Re: I was SO wrong about Dark Armed Dragon!
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 09, 2011, 06:01:17 pm Central Daylight Time
What?

Deck is good. :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on July 10, 2011, 08:12:03 pm Central Daylight Time
post it. here


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 10, 2011, 10:52:52 pm Central Daylight Time
Updated structure is already in the OP.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 11, 2011, 01:03:29 pm Central Daylight Time
Changed it once more! xD  This will likely be the final structure of the Main Deck.  I forgot I wasn't running 3 Gates, and Drag has been less consistent irl. :(

Side Deck is definitely not finished.  Kycoo, Chaos Hunter, Greenkapa... lots of stuff to think about.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on July 11, 2011, 02:50:18 pm Central Daylight Time
hehehe pkmn trnr i just wanna ask why run 2 goldd and 1 sillva  hmmm buck2.gif


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 11, 2011, 03:15:40 pm Central Daylight Time
Goldd looks ****in' better than Sillva, duh. :P

I do like the Gold Rare's total surface bling.  2nd effects don't really matter to me, but I actually prefer Goldd's.

____

EDIT: Side Deck updated.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 15, 2011, 09:56:39 pm Central Daylight Time
Guess I forgot my old words "There's always room for change."  There really is.

Brron and Scarr are now being used.  Brron's actually... not bad honestly.  Kill something like Tengu or a dumb little thing, discard Grapha.  Bounce Brron for Grapha.  Or, I discard one of my 2 Lords.  I've been appreciating the extra discard outlet.  Scarr is a nice extra Grapha taker.  I've yet to Set it, but I'm lookin' forward to it.

Of course with my horrible luck on DN + being trolled I can't say I totally trust Dueling Network.
xD


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 18, 2011, 02:02:07 pm Central Daylight Time
Skill Drain has officially made it into the Side Deck! ;D  I want to use 1 over Book of Moon or 2 over Broww & DWD in the Main Deck now heheh ;D

I can't wait to play this, man! :(  If DW becomes as popular as I think it will, I'll follow the Japanese and use 2 Pots of Duality over 2 DWD.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 18, 2011, 10:34:32 pm Central Daylight Time
Brron wasn't doing much of anything really, so...

1 Skill Drain moved in!! ;D  I've finally got my favorite Trap card!

Now there is 1 empty space in my Side Deck.
o: Suggestions?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 23, 2011, 11:27:56 pm Central Daylight Time
Main & Side Update.

I "disorganized" my Deck on DN and I began to draw normal hands VS. all Spell opening + total of 3 incompatible monsters in 5 turns.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on July 24, 2011, 03:08:55 pm Central Daylight Time
how goods maining skill drain on DW heheh im only thinking of this as side deck hmmm i thinking of putting it but i have solemn warning that equip on my deck that hinder me of putting it and also skill drain affect raven, and another question where do u usually activate it your turn, or turn of your opp. hehehe


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 24, 2011, 11:29:03 pm Central Daylight Time
It's f**kin' bawss. 8]  I wish I had built my proxied Deck sooner.  And scrambled my Deck order on DN sooner, too. xD  Avoid hours of frustration.

I do not miss Book of Moon at all, and conflicting with Raven is rare.  Even if it does happen, it's way worth keeping your opponent from gaining significant advantage from fully-powered Synchros, or whatever annoyances he may have.  Book of Moon was always a slacker because it never truly got rid of a problem.  Skill Drain stops problems as the begin and keeps them there.

Typically I Chain it to my opponent's effect activation.  If I have DCK and my opponent has only 1 Set monster, I keep Skill Drain hidden face-down.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on July 25, 2011, 05:04:04 pm Central Daylight Time
keep that in mind hehe and tested it later have you try warrior elimination or gozen match on sides look good


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 25, 2011, 05:22:01 pm Central Daylight Time
I haven't tried Warrior Elimination yet.  I may need my friend's help...

:-\  I don't see the point of Gozen Match when I have Skill Drain.  Save room.
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Trying 2 Cheerful Coffin over 2 Dark World Dealings because it's the next closest card.  I know not drawing a card sucks... but it gives me slight flexibility in being able to discard up to 3 cards without doing the opponent a favor. 

I tried 2 Pot of Duality as well, but not being able to Special Summon + not being an actual discard outlet just makes it decent.

I'm also thinking about Depth Amulet, but I can't exactly use what I discard till my turn... It's a little slow too, and if it's destroyed >_>; well that sucks.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on July 25, 2011, 05:36:48 pm Central Daylight Time
that also what im thinking warrior ellimination vs. skill drain, on pod may try that and i might tweeks some monster card thatt ss on my deck i do that


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 25, 2011, 05:45:23 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah, Skill Drain can make WE better.  Anyway, what's wrong with 2 discriminatory Dark Holes? ;D

More control monsters...?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 08, 2011, 09:33:57 pm Central Daylight Time
Royal Oppression + Trap Stun tech has been quite sick. 8]  Screw Reborn Tengu.  With Beiige + Grapha in the Graveyard, you can play a little poke & burn game with Oppression.  Have Beiige attack, then bounce him for Grapha.  The opponent will pay 800 points to negate Grapha. :)  Of course, it's even better when Grapha and whatever big monsters are already out.

Also, I've been drawing double Raven too constantly.  Ditched one for good ol' Hobby League Grand Mole. :)  Another good tool to use under Royal Oppression.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 12, 2011, 07:59:56 pm Central Daylight Time
Alright!  This baby's been workin' fine. 8]

Just had a great run against X-Sabers.  He was only able to search for X-Saber Pashuul from XX-Saber Darksoul during my End Phase.  He drew a XX-Saber Fulhelmknight, which was immediately destroyed.  He Set Pashuul and ended his last turn. 

On my turn, I used Gate of Dark World to banish a Broww to discard and Summon Beiige.  Now 3 DARKs were in the Graveyard.  Dark Armed Dragon.  Banished the second Broww and destroyed Pashuul.


(http://oi55.tinypic.com/6sw8ev.jpg)


If you read the IM box, I was about to suggest a better play he could have done before he left. xD


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on August 13, 2011, 02:33:15 am Central Daylight Time
hehe nice hows the oppression doing on the deck i also tempted to put that on my first build but idid not d put it, hehe nice swarm of monster there there lol  hmmm question how d u capture the photo of duel on DN


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 13, 2011, 12:23:58 pm Central Daylight Time
Royal Oppression actually does very well. o_o'''  It sounds so weird, right?  But I ain't kidding.  Definitely worth a shot.

To take a picture of your entire screen, press "Print Screen" near the top of your keyboard.  If you would like to take a picture of only a certain window, hold "Alt" and press "Print Screen."  The picture will be the same size as the window.  This lets your computer copy the image.  To actually view it, go to Paint.  Choose "Rectangular Select" and paste your image.  Be sure to crop out the extra blank white parts of your image.  Save it when you are finished. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on August 13, 2011, 06:49:48 pm Central Daylight Time
Your deck theory is solid. I re-read since my last post. long story short I was not(and am still not feeling) scarr, but bronn is not bad. I do like how your deck is set and I notice RO is decked. It's surprising to see, but it makes sense considering decks like disaster dragon can main it without trouble. 

One thing I'd like to see is main decked BFADD or RftDD as they both allow for recursion due to grepha's bounce but also enable pushes and potential OTKs. Lastly, why the lone breaker sided?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 13, 2011, 08:57:38 pm Central Daylight Time
Thank you, Big Stinkin' Ape. :P  Well... I wouldn't say either are bad, but I do feel just the opposite about Scarr VS Brron.  Gate basically does all the discarding for you.  Brron's just "there."  At least with Scarr, you can Set it if you're in a tight spot and get something out of it.

Speaking of which, I got my butt saved from Dragons because of Royal Oppression today. :P  I love that card now.  I'm actually liking DDV less because I'm starting to see hands with "Monster Reborn" in them. -_-'''

Nah, you don't want Back/Return.  Easily dead draws or just plain not useful.  If I needed an extra monster Special Summon, I would go to Tour Guides... who are too expensive for a budget man like me. :(

Breaker's there instead of alternative cards because he is a good Summon.  Greenkappa, Twister and EEV don't offer field presence.  I might actually use Dust Tornadoes and change the numbers around in the future.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on August 14, 2011, 01:26:33 am Central Daylight Time
hmmm getting interested again on RO hehe maybe will try your build hmmm with some modification hehe


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 14, 2011, 11:45:32 am Central Daylight Time
Alright! :P  We can discuss this on your thread.  If you're still running 2 Trade-In... ::)  Take those out for Royal Oppression + Trap Stun.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on August 15, 2011, 02:20:04 am Central Daylight Time
hehe maybe that will i do im having difficulties on obtaining trade in maybe will change that option


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 18, 2011, 12:53:29 pm Central Daylight Time
hehe maybe that will i do im having difficulties on obtaining trade in maybe will change that option

Told yaaa...! ;D  That's the spirit, Bakura.  Too bad Royal Oppression is getting banned. -_-'''  People caught on using it as tech.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on August 22, 2011, 06:07:01 pm Central Daylight Time
do you have your new ban list deck ready yet.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 22, 2011, 06:43:51 pm Central Daylight Time
I wasn't ready to update it because I was not confident with the new structure.

Now it is done. ;D  Main + Side + Extra updated!

DAD became inconsistent.  3rd MST wasn't necessary and could be done without.  EEV is epic now that Decks are becoming more Spell-reliant.  Chaos Hunter sucks in the Side because Tour Guide + Lv:3 Fiend = No.17 Leviathan Dragon to instantly kill her, and opponent's Grapha don't even give a ****.  The Cheerful Coffin was desperately needed to replenish the loss of 5 discard outlets VS the mirror (3 DWD, 1 Card D, 1 DWL - DW Decks hardly set).  Raven & Duality are merely support cards and are not true replacements for DWD/Card D.  One is not a Spell, thus stoppable by Effect Veiler and takes your Normal Summon away from a DW monster - this keeps you from bouncing for Grapha.  Duality is good if you have all of your discard outlets ready, but it does not make up for them.  Both can only be considered support cards.

Deeper explanations on this page and the page after on my Pojo thread.
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=962265&page=31


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on August 23, 2011, 06:37:56 am Central Daylight Time
 >:(You didn't post it and went and looked.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on August 23, 2011, 04:50:56 pm Central Daylight Time
Please understand I only post structures I have confidence in. :)  Thank you.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on September 13, 2011, 06:02:45 pm Central Daylight Time
Current official revision.  From this build, the only possible changes are DWL vs MST, switch a few DWD w/ Coffin (preparation for the temporary bandwagoners) and some details in the Side Deck.

Just in case you guys didn't see, Solemn Warning has been confirmed in the next wave of tins coming November 1st.


Also, my thread on Pojo got locked! :o  But I'm happy that it was my fastest and most active one yet.  Averaged 231 views a day for 97 days. ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on September 22, 2011, 01:12:55 am Central Daylight Time
hehe also see that your thread there was lock in pojo heheh, like the neospacian tech on my build ryt now and it i still going good hehehe look like i will use that tech on our sept 2011 open championship also like to put a random trago on my build and  was doing good hehehe


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on September 25, 2011, 10:09:29 pm Central Daylight Time
hehe also see that your thread there was lock in pojo heheh, like the neospacian tech on my build ryt now and it i still going good hehehe look like i will use that tech on our sept 2011 open championship also like to put a random trago on my build and  was doing good hehehe

Yeah. :P  It was fun!

Awesome! ;D  Grand Mole, bay~behh!!

;D Haha!  I'm actually trying 2 Tragoedia over my DCK's right now.  DCK won't be leaving, but I want to create more situations to see how Tragoedia would do in them.  I might keep one...
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Slight update.  I really do not believe either Virus is worthwhile any longer.  DDV has already been deemed ineffective.  It might seem good vs. Agents, but they usually just bring out an Earth or Venus + Shine Balls, which instantly complete their duty in the turn they are Summoned.  Hyperion and Kristya are the real troublemakers.  EEV's attack on Spells is weak.  Decks just aren't that reliant on Spells.  Traps are run in even fewer numbers.  Agents are again a good example. :-\  EEV's staying in the Side Deck.  I now understand why none of the Japanese National toppers Mained EEV.

I really dislike having more than 1 Fabled Raven.  I wouldn't even Side the second one because Cheerful Coffin does the same job while conserving my Normal Summon.  My second Raven kept appearing as a dead card because it could not Summon.

And Pot of Duality, believe it or not, is a good tech card. :)  1 is just enough to get it when your hand lacks organization.  Also a great card to play in a turn that you do not have to revive Grapha.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on September 26, 2011, 01:49:27 am Central Daylight Time
thats also what isee on jap meta always see this trap line up

2bth
2Divine warning
1SJ
2mind crush
1Trap dust shoot
1 Torrential
1 mirror

what do u think hhehe

on duality may be i will also maining 1-2 having difficulting on findin a cheerful coffin....



Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on September 26, 2011, 02:29:05 pm Central Daylight Time
thats also what isee on jap meta always see this trap line up

2bth
2Divine warning
1SJ
2mind crush
1Trap dust shoot
1 Torrential
1 mirror

what do u think hhehe

on duality may be i will also maining 1-2 having difficulting on findin a cheerful coffin....

Looks solid, except for the Mind Crushes.  Though there's a lot of searching, Earth gets played really quickly.  If you don't have Crush when your opponent has Earth, you basically have a dead card(s) on your hands.

Duality's definitely worth a shot. :)  And me too... :'(


EDIT: Updated to V4. 8]  Tragoedia is staying.  Also a great replacement for Grand Mole vs. DW, LS or whenever I feel like I'll need it.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 02, 2011, 10:16:12 pm Central Daylight Time
Update!

Took out Goldd for Scarr.  1 of my 2 Lords would be a dead or lame draw that kept me from reviving Grapha even.  Scarr can be easily bounced for Grapha and gives me a little reward when I need to stall for a turn.  I'm liking it. :)

Also, I took out the last DDV from my Side Deck.  Skill Drain basically takes care of all monsters.  If I ever needed to attack their hand, I have EEV.  Currently put in a Cyber Dragon because Karakuri can be annoying. -_-'''  Sided Trag & Cydra replace Mole when the time's right.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on October 08, 2011, 12:17:06 am Central Daylight Time
heheh question what match up are you having difficulty recently agents, karakuri, dw etc. .... also onthat rap line up listed above i also want 1 mincrush there and minus mirror force hehe.....



Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 08, 2011, 09:10:03 am Central Daylight Time
heheh question what match up are you having difficulty recently agents, karakuri, dw etc. .... also onthat rap line up listed above i also want 1 mincrush there and minus mirror force hehe.....

>_>; For some reason Karakuris are being pretty annoying.  I've only played them a couple of times and I happen to not get Skill Drain early enough. xD  Hence, 1 Cydra in the Side.

Agents are aren't too bad.  I've lost more from Lightsworns' lucksacks.

Mirror matches are tricky.  Since DW has not entered the TCG meta, I will wait and see.  The TCG is getting "Dark Smog," which is a good meta counter and fits perfectly for the mirror match.

Mirror Force has done waaay more than Mind Crush could have ever done.  I really feel the need for defense.



Update:

Put 3 Dark Smog into the Side Deck.  Grand Mole, Dark Hole, Mirror Force, 1 Skill Drain + All discard outlets (besides Gate) are removed for Trag, MST and the last 8 cards of my Side Deck, which are heavily geared towards the mirror. 
 
Grand Mole does not want to bounce Grapha.  Dark Hole & Mirror Force only get rid of my opponent's Grapha for 1 turn.  All of my normal discard outlets are unsafe against the mirror.  Skill Drain only takes care of Tour Guides and maybe Ravens, and also gets in the way of the 2nd Trag I will be using.

Tragoedia boosts defense and heightens my chances of taking my opponent's Grapha.  Coffin helps kick things off.  Dark Smog acts as a discard outlet and a banisher to take out Graphas.  Burial from a DD rescues my own Graphas and refuels Gate.  EEV is crucial in killing the mirror.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on October 08, 2011, 02:52:17 pm Central Daylight Time
lucky for tcg they have dark smog heheh but any wat i will get some of dark smog and play it on open tournies hehe or casual play anyway how dark smog doing vs dark world or there in a way you recommend siding dark smog i mean vs other arcthype...  or its only for mirror type side hehehe 


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 09, 2011, 12:26:10 pm Central Daylight Time
lucky for tcg they have dark smog heheh but any wat i will get some of dark smog and play it on open tournies hehe or casual play anyway how dark smog doing vs dark world or there in a way you recommend siding dark smog i mean vs other arcthype...  or its only for mirror type side hehehe 

I haven't had enough experience, but from a private conversation on Pojo, it seems Dark Smog works extremely well against the meta Decks.  The guy got Admin calls because his opponent thought he was a cheater or hacker for using that card. xD

Dark Smog keeps Hyperion at bay by removing Agents (they cannot use Earth to Tune if they want to Summon Hyperion), keeps the Fairies in the Graveyard under 4, stops Junk Synchron/Debris Dragon/Glow-Up Bulb and could even thwart JD or BLS.

Of course, this is if you can get Dark Smog early enough - and have the amount of Dark World monsters to support it.  From my results and my fellow Smog user's results, it looks like you need an extra Beiige and maybe a Lord (and Raven) to make Smog work (and give Beiige/Lord usefulness when you don't have Smog).

Below is a Smog skeleton.
  Note that this is not a complete Deck.

Monsters: 13-14
3 Grapha
3 Snoww
3 Broww
2 Beiige
0-1 Sillva
1 Scarr
1 Raven

Spells: 13-18 (approx. 16)
3 Gates
1-2 DWL
1-3 DWD
1 Card D
1-2 Duality
1 Allure
1 Foolish
1 Dark Hole
1 Reborn
1 Heavy
1-2 MST

Traps: 7
2 Smog
2 Drain
2 Warning/BTH (OCG)
1 Judgment

You can easily adapt this to fit your meta, Bakura.  Dragged Down into the Grave can be used if you are willing to keep your monster count low (Max: 16).  I left 1 Duality in the skeleton because I really feel that it is a necessary part to boost consistency.  I used 1 EEV & 1 Mind Crush, but I had to cut them for monsters because 14 is way too low in my experience. :/  Hopefully this won't impact Drag...

Here is my actual test build:
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/ofxd8g.jpg)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on October 09, 2011, 04:18:49 pm Central Daylight Time
just curiuous why snowman eater????


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 10, 2011, 06:03:43 pm Central Daylight Time
just curiuous why snowman eater????

Frosty can get rid of a big monster that is already on the field.  I'll go with Raiou if Frosty doesn't test well.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 22, 2011, 05:46:23 pm Central Daylight Time
Update:

No longer felt Scarr was necessary after some testing irl.  Then again, I do feel that having 1 more Dark World monster to draw (to bounce for Grapha) is needed.  2nd Tragoedia will stay for now.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on October 27, 2011, 01:42:36 pm Central Daylight Time
hmm... that was your updated irl deck???


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on October 27, 2011, 07:10:53 pm Central Daylight Time
hmm... that was your updated irl deck???


Solemn Warning's coming in the November tins.  I don't have some parts of my Extra Deck.  Side Deck might change in the future, too.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on November 05, 2011, 03:03:01 pm Central Daylight Time
Since I got my new sleeves, I began active play with my actual Deck.

2 DWD, 2 Drag, 2 MST really works well.  These new Player's Choice really make a difference. :)
I thought DCK would inhibit Drag (since I would have to play it), but I realized that Drag's only 2 cards so there's not much of a clash.  If there is, I'd just Set DCK.  DEF/1800 ain't bad really, and reaches a stalemate with Cyber Dragon when The Gates are on the field.

I'm only running 1 Mind Crush because the 2nd one has a chance of being dead without any of my own cards to rely on seeing my opponent's hand.  I'm not using a "hand disruption" focus because I would have to use the Viruses.  EEV sucks on its own, and DDV is redundant with Skill Drain.  Plus, that style has a dependency on Mind Crush to be really effective.

I'm still on the fence about Reckless Greed.  It's a possible immediate buff to your field for a -1.  It only works because Dark World is reliant on whatever cards are in the hand.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on November 08, 2011, 05:32:26 pm Central Standard Time
Man, Metaion, the Timelord (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Metaion,_the_Timelord) is so annoying. e_e'''  Well... you guys'll see.

My friend's Metaion (proxied) scared me because I thought it returned other monsters to the Deck.  I burned through 3 Gates + 2 Snowws & 1 Grapha just to try to draw the right cards, but I only got a too late Warning.  However, he - knowing its actual effect - instead stalled w/ Metaion for 2 turns (I had Beiige & Colossal - Colossal because I boldly Mind Crush'd Hyperion after my triple Gate run).  He returned Metaion for Genex Ally Birdman and Normal Summoned Venus (+2 Shine Balls) for Scrap Dragon, which I Warned.  He ended with the extra Shine Ball.

I Summoned DCK to ensure Gorz wouldn't save him.  Beiige killed his Shine Ball, and DCK attacked next and Tributed himself to negate the predicted Gorz.  However, DCK was negated by Orange Light.  I made Colossal attack the Token, Grapha pop his Gorz and Set 1 card before ending.

With a clear field, he Summoned Metaion again!  But I Warned that b_tch. :D  He scooped, and I won 2-0 just like last week!

Though I pulled off another Heart of the Cards win on him, I realized that my rich-ass friend didn't return Metaion to the Deck in his Standby Phase once I actually read the card's effect at home. >_>;  Fncker told me it only returns after it battles.  Last time I trust this bitch-ass punk on effects. <> <>
*

EDIT: And this guy's a Lv.1 Judge!  Can you believe it?  Seriously, more people - including him - ask me about rulings!  What the ****!  This guy's judgment on rulings is also quite inaccurate and more importantly biased (often bends it in his favor or tries to sneak an effect in).  I guess he'll never change.

I got suspicious when he became so feisty about not letting me see his phone for Metaion's effect... I could've looked it up myself, but I thought better of him.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on November 09, 2011, 04:05:08 pm Central Standard Time
Alright, Reckless Greed is not as good as a lot of people are saying it is.  There was some reason to it (more cards for DW = greater potential).  However, from my experience with it and what I'm seeing people say, this is yet another biased bandwagon movement.  Reckless Greed does not offer a solid reward.  Solemn Warning + Mirror Force are 10x better, contrary to those who say they do not miss the defense - an absolute, blind falsehood.

Even though I've been running Skill Drain, it is not an end-all to my opponent's options because big boss beatsticks are still capable of being Summoned (this is to anyone who thinks like BadAssDuelist, an elitist from Pojo).  Life Points are important, but the insurance Warning brings nullifies any such argument.  Think back to the days of triple Solemn Judgment and you will see just how right I am.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on November 10, 2011, 12:15:43 am Central Standard Time
i think also dark world not needed anymore draw power as you did trainer i testd it IRL but it did not satisfy me sometimes its the reason why i lost hehehe, as u said is better put solemn warning or any defensive traps instead of this ...... hmmm  =]\/


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on November 10, 2011, 07:14:18 pm Central Standard Time
i think also dark world not needed anymore draw power as you did trainer i testd it IRL but it did not satisfy me sometimes its the reason why i lost hehehe, as u said is better put solemn warning or any defensive traps instead of this ...... hmmm  =]\/

:) Excellent, I love to hear supportive experiences, Bakura.

>_>;  Looking back at my Duels today only reminds me of how unhelpful Reckless would have been and how much I appreciate Warning & Mirror.  Those guys at Pojo must be lucksacking really hard...


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on November 23, 2011, 05:51:54 pm Central Standard Time
Side Deck completed!

I'll grab 2 Dark Smogs and a Debunk sometime.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on December 01, 2011, 06:56:38 pm Central Standard Time
nice sides heheh hmmm look like trans archfiend is main choice on our local not 1 but 3 seems that they abuse the use of it hmmm.... and for that the price of trans archfien sky rocketed to $7 hmmm hope can i get cheap ones hmmm


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on December 02, 2011, 06:48:59 pm Central Standard Time
Thanks. :P  Now I don't think I'd use 3  o_o''' but maybe 2 since it does make up for itself.  It is a short print, but man that's pretty steep. xD


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on December 09, 2011, 12:21:33 am Central Standard Time
I took out Mind Crush for now; back to 40 cards.  Recently I felt it slowing down my Deck.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on December 15, 2011, 07:53:47 am Central Standard Time
40 cards is always awesome.  ;)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on December 15, 2011, 01:25:57 pm Central Standard Time
want to ask why u re move BTH on main hmm gonna go on tournies tom.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on December 15, 2011, 08:03:03 pm Central Standard Time
Yup, 40's always good, Fever. :)
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Bakura, remember the TCG still allows players to prioritize Ignition effects of their monsters.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on December 16, 2011, 03:03:02 am Central Standard Time
so thats why hehehe  :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on December 17, 2011, 09:35:44 pm Central Standard Time
Mhm. :)  I am going back to 41 with a Brron.  Testing begins the next time I play, which might not be in another 3 weeks since I'm on winter break. :D  Sometimes I want the chance to draw another DW monster, and one that can act as a discard outlet.  I'll think about Trance Archfiend when it's out haha


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on February 20, 2012, 12:26:57 am Central Standard Time
Alright, I'm convinced that Trance Archfiend really helps get the Deck going.  When I only have 1 DW in hand to take back Grapha, it wasn't safe to use Gate.   With Trance Archfiend, now I can.  When he's destroyed, I can get back a Dark World monster I banished from Gate.  I'm gonna test this build within the next few dats.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on February 20, 2012, 03:46:56 am Central Standard Time
hehe nice update your result some other time i will use my build with trans this sat. on a monthly tourney


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on February 26, 2012, 08:19:29 pm Central Standard Time
Well, no changes (besides dropping banned Dustshoot).  Everything here works out very well.  2 Trance Archfiends are just right.  Tech'd DCK does business.  I dunno if I'll add that 2nd Torrential Tribute.  It'll go to the Side if I build one; I play casually.

I upgraded Foolish Burial to Duel Terminal status and fit everything into beautiful gold sleeves. ;D  I will wash my hands before I Duel to make sure these sleeves will not build up grime like my last set of silver sleeves.  Gold Series' Kaiba mat giving me the power like always. 8]  These gold sleeves really do make my Deck look amazing. ;D
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Thinking about getting an
Ultimate "Luchador Colosal" for the awesome name & gold lettering.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on February 27, 2012, 05:38:27 pm Central Standard Time
also that i think only 2 trans-daemon if you have dragged mained, heheh


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on February 27, 2012, 09:57:42 pm Central Standard Time
also that i think only 2 trans-daemon if you have dragged mained, heheh

Mhm, I am using 2 of both Trance Archfiend & Drag. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on February 29, 2012, 07:16:09 pm Central Standard Time
Currently testing 1 Book of Moon over 1 Dragged Down into the Grave.

I'm hoping this is temporary.  In quite a couple games, I drew too many Spells and only a few small Dark World monsters like Broww.  It could be that I did have monster clumps and I am using new sleeves.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on March 04, 2012, 06:23:38 pm Central Standard Time
Metaion, the Timelord is reminiscent of Yubel - Terror Incarnate but not as deadly and a lil grand mole mixed in.. How does that card mix in to most fairy decks??? seems like just splashable... sux it goes back to deck and not destroyed to grave yard.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 04, 2012, 06:27:23 pm Central Standard Time
Metaion, the Timelord is reminiscent of Yubel - Terror Incarnate but not as deadly and a lil grand mole mixed in.. How does that card mix in to most fairy decks??? seems like just splashable... sux it goes back to deck and not destroyed to grave yard.

Because Metaion must return to the Deck after one turn, he is hardly used.  Mole's way better offensively and defensively because it keeps coming back.  That's why it is Limited, and Metaion has no need to be put on the restriction list.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 10, 2012, 01:36:23 pm Central Standard Time
Duel Report

VS Gladiator Beasts:

It can take up to 20 min. for one Duel with this guy. -_-'''  His Deck's good though, he wins a lot. :)

He went first.  My hand had mostly Trance Archfiends & Raven + Spell discard outlets.  I had to slowly accumulate DW monsters while he was controlling the game for the first 10+ min. ::)  Finally, I accumulated enough DW monsters and turned the tables.  He still had a sh*tload of Traps Set so it took another 10 min. before I was able to break through his defenses and beat him with Grapha.  I had 8 cards left in my Deck.

Then I helped him unsleeve his cards and put them in new sleeves. -_-'''

The second Duel went much smoother.  I don't remember much of it, but it took about 10 min. before I won. :)  Lucky break.

2 - 0


VS Dragunity:

He began both Duels with Future Fusion, but in both of them I destroyed it with MST and then Grapha.  Early Skill Drains in both games also forced him to completely topdeck in both games.  Easy. :)

2 - 0


VS T.G. Agents:


My opponent had a Venus & Gachi Gachi to start the game.  Dragged Down revealed a hand of Hyperion, Honest and Creature Swap. :o  If it wasn't for Drag allowing me to rip Creature Swap from his hand, he would've definitely had this Duel in the bag.  Grapha attacking Venus forced him to use Honest, and my Warning stopped his Hyperion. ;D  He was also forced into complete topdecking with only one card in his hand.  I Summon Doomcaliber Knight. :)  Lucky Gorz won't save him now.  DCK, Grapha and Trance Archfiend end the game splendidly. ;D

Second Duel, I only drew 1 Snoww and another monster.  All Spells, mostly discard outlets. -_-'''  Third Duel, and it was his turn to draw no monsters, though I didn't have much to begin with either.  He began with 4 S/T Sets.  I popped a BTH & Mirror Force before I thought it was safe for Grapha to attack, landing 2 direct hits (5400 dmg).  I knew that Torrential must have been one of the remaining two since I have not Summoned since Grapha.  Finally I was able to MST that Torrential I predicted.

He uses Duality to grab Jupiter and Sets him as his only means of defense.  I draw Neo-Spacian Grand Mole. :D

2 - 1


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 10, 2012, 03:23:53 pm Central Standard Time
The Side Deck has been made! 

I'm proud of myself for remembering Wall of Illusion, which is now perfect for Dino-Rabbits. ;D  It easily takes Evolkaiser Laggia out of the picture.  Plus, it's very anti-GB.  All this and it's a Fiend. :) 
BTH prevents Laggia from being Summoned in the first place by killing both Dinos brought out by Rescue Rabbit.

Dark World Lightning strikes defensive Decks hard.  Cydra's there in case I bump into annoying Gadget Decks and their damn Machina Fortress.

I haven't seen Inzektors in action, but Chain Disappearance should do well to get rid of Inzektor Dragonfly.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on March 10, 2012, 11:11:26 pm Central Standard Time
possessed dark soul could be considered if you deck sangan or TGU or any form of Ss for fiends. His effect in the game now is not to be  tossed aside as bad.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 10, 2012, 11:50:13 pm Central Standard Time
I saw that card, but I don't think it's useful to be honest.  No one's leaving out Lv:3 monsters for me to take.  Possessed Dark Soul's effect will be negated if it is brought out by Tour Guide, which I do not have.  Not until May anyway.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on March 11, 2012, 09:07:05 am Central Daylight Time
Fair doo's it's one to consider none the less.

anyone think Necro world backed by This guy sounds bawss

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Protector_of_the_Sanctuary

just deck disturbance strategy+call of the haunted in additon to normal DWnecro world stuffs and when you flop disturbance chain call SSing protector OR when you card dist, chain call on protector and make the opponent feel like their balls got chopped off.

(not my idea, some guy on TCG thought of it first, makes wind-up loop look like a pile of ****. this one empties thier hand, where wind-ups only take down 3-4 targets max in opening hand)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 11, 2012, 12:59:55 pm Central Daylight Time
That's a 2 card combo that has no support from searching.  An interesting idea, but not somethin' we'd really want to run.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on March 11, 2012, 05:17:47 pm Central Daylight Time
sytrian sergents and cat of ill omen(who works with necrovalley and makes dark diviner\frozen fitzgerald) get both parts.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on March 11, 2012, 06:30:51 pm Central Daylight Time
sytrian sergents and cat of ill omen(who works with necrovalley and makes dark diviner\frozen fitzgerald) get both parts.

Stygian Street Patrol?  I guess if you mill Protector first...  Cat's slow.  Even with those 2 cards, it looks like the combo may have a hard time coming together.


Title: Dark World Archfiends
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 04, 2012, 05:40:41 pm Central Daylight Time
An attempt at a fun version! :o  No way!

Total: 40

Monsters: 15
3 Grapha, Dragon God of Dark World
1 Goldd, Warlord of Dark World - Gold
1 Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World
3 Snow, Magician of Dark World
3 Broww, Huntsman of Dark World
3 Trance Archfiend
1 Sangan

Spells: 18
2 Axe of Despair
2 Falling Down
3 The Gates of Dark World
2 Dark World Dealings
1 Dragged Down into the Grave
1 Card Destruction
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Foolish Burial
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
2 Mystical Space Typhoon

Traps: 07
1 Starlight Road
2 Skill Drain
1 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute

-1 Solemn Warning in case I have to pay for Falling Down.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 04, 2012, 07:09:21 pm Central Daylight Time
My main worry about that is it being inconsistent. I see a lot of hands with Spells and Traps.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 04, 2012, 07:28:31 pm Central Daylight Time
My main worry about that is it being inconsistent. I see a lot of hands with Spells and Traps.

F*ck I know. :(  It already happens in my normal build.  I guess I'll have to sacrifice an Axe for a Mad Archfiend.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 08, 2012, 02:21:14 pm Central Daylight Time
OP Updated!

Took out Fabled Raven.  Unfortunately. :-\  It's not worth it for him to just discard a Broww/Snoww, and that's all he can manage usually.  The idea is nice but he's simply failed to prove himself to be useful.

DCK also had to leave to make room for 2 CED.  Drain, Book & staple Traps are nice but I want more defense than that.  DCK did his service and now it is time for him to rest.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 08, 2012, 05:02:53 pm Central Daylight Time
OP Updated!

Took out Fabled Raven.  Unfortunately. :-\  It's not worth it for him to just discard a Broww/Snoww, and that's all he can manage usually.  The idea is nice but he's simply failed to prove himself to be useful.

DCK also had to leave to make room for 2 CED.  Drain, Book & staple Traps are nice but I want more defense than that.  DCK did his service and now it is time for him to rest.


Taking out Fabled Raven was a smart choice.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 08, 2012, 05:07:10 pm Central Daylight Time
Mhm.  I really wanted to use him. :-\

I cleaned up the Side Deck too.  Raven rests there until the mirror match.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 08, 2012, 05:42:15 pm Central Daylight Time
And I don't like Doomcalibur Knight either so that works for me.  :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 08, 2012, 05:52:08 pm Central Daylight Time
He may or may not come back since I'm running so little monsters.  Probably not going to happen though.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 09, 2012, 03:35:22 pm Central Daylight Time
You ever use Raven to help XYZs summon??? I like that idea.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 09, 2012, 05:32:08 pm Central Daylight Time
Raven was only good before the new support IMO. Now it's just too risky.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 09, 2012, 06:22:51 pm Central Daylight Time
I'm sad to say this, but I have been iffy on Fabled Raven since the first day I played this Deck irl (not on DN). :-\  Over half the time it was useless, but the other times it was surprisingly good.  But now, I just don't wanna deal with that sh*t anymore.  I won't see Stardust Dragon or Ancient Sacred Awesome on my field at all now, but... it is worth it.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 09, 2012, 07:46:40 pm Central Daylight Time
How much is it now?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 09, 2012, 07:56:46 pm Central Daylight Time
Around $25-30-ish.  Still quite expensive.  They were $10 at my locals before hype/gei-sh*t was kicked up.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 09, 2012, 08:32:59 pm Central Daylight Time
I guess they went down. But I supposed that's an okay for price for a Secret Rare.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 09, 2012, 10:14:27 pm Central Daylight Time
:D F*ck it, you don't need it!


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 11, 2012, 08:13:02 pm Central Daylight Time
Weird.  I tested a 3rd Trance Archfiend + more DW over CEDs & S/T's to try to find a more consistent/powerful build for me.  However, my changes had no effect on consistency.  Not that the new cards performed poorly, but in half of my recent games I have been drawing a bunch of S/T staples.  Opening hands like Gates, Spells, Warnings and a lone Snoww, Grapha or Trance Archfiend are what I'm talking about.  None of the cards I changed actually mattered in this issue.

Since shifting card placement to get rid of monster or S/T clumps hasn't had much effect, I'm actually going to switch the cards in the sleeves to see if the Deck runs more smoothly.

EDIT:
CED has proved more helpful than more monsters.  It deals with threats better than piling on more monsters to the field because they can be beaten.  But my draws lately are just weird.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 12, 2012, 03:02:19 am Central Daylight Time
Control decks are a lot tougher to find the right balance in Monsters, Spells, and Traps.  :-\ Gotta post my deck soon.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 12, 2012, 07:08:28 am Central Daylight Time
Well I did try aggro but it made no difference.  You see, I drew 3-4 staples, a Spell and maybe a monster very often.  I know it isn't a problem with my structure because I'm mostly drawing staples (same cards whatever my build may be) with 1 monster that is good but not on its own.  I realized this when I basically got the same draws when I tried the aggro build.  The cards I changed didn't exactly affect consistency because I never drew them enough.  I recognized what S/T's I had replaced with monsters.  These cards (sharing the same sleeves) showed up just as infrequently.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 12, 2012, 12:47:43 pm Central Daylight Time
Just bad luck I suppose.  :-\


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 12, 2012, 04:07:00 pm Central Daylight Time
Swapping the cards in the sleeves has made this odd problem less frequent. :D 

Keeping the Deck as shown in the OP.  Book & CED really shined today by keeping Grapha safe from Dimensional Prison
(as well as keeping Inzektor Dragonfly from starting anything).


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 13, 2012, 08:30:57 am Central Daylight Time
That is the same thing Infestation wave and First step towards Infestation do, protect against Dprison and Bottomless.

Is book at 1 now?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 13, 2012, 09:59:18 am Central Daylight Time
Yes, but the Steelswarm cards cannot thwart your opponent's monsters.  The main reason for Book & CED is anti-monster defense - but they're flexible enough to save my own monsters.

Book of Moon is Limited. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 13, 2012, 11:59:26 am Central Daylight Time
ah yea, do you think book of moon warants a limited status?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 13, 2012, 05:11:15 pm Central Daylight Time
It would sure be annoying.  It's a 1 card out to many things.  It can halt Synchro & Xyz Summons, flip a big monster face-down to expose its weaker defense and have your own monsters avoid Traps.  It also stops you from bouncing a DW monster for Grapha.  Its versatility in both purpose and use does set it apart.  It's not broken by itself but seeing it and using it more often could be a problem.  I don't have a problem with Book at 1.
___

Deck's doin' well again. :)  CED is nice.  Dark Hole makes it to my hand a lot.  I've had a couple lucky Heavy Storms too. ^-^  I still draw mostly S/T's, but it's in expected and acceptable amounts for my build.  The previous bs hands have began to fade.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 13, 2012, 07:11:53 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah Book of Moon is too crazy at 3. Empty Jar and other ****.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 14, 2012, 12:09:07 am Central Daylight Time
^ Whoo sh*t forgot about those bastards! :o


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 14, 2012, 03:08:50 am Central Daylight Time
Gladiator Beasts as well. -_-


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 14, 2012, 11:43:13 am Central Daylight Time
FUUUAAUGHHHH!!! :o

Yeah those guys are already tough.  Good reminders, Fever. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 06:51:39 pm Central Daylight Time
Bumped off a Warning for a 2nd Torrential Tribute.  Life Points have been a concern because of how I draw now.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 24, 2012, 07:04:55 pm Central Daylight Time
Understandable.  :P Torrential Tribute is really something else. If they MST it, it was a one for one. If they don't, then you got something to rely on if they go crazy.  :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 07:10:36 pm Central Daylight Time
Yup, I was lookin' for another big destroyer anyway. :P  Although I still find YGO bland since I've been playin' with the same thing for forever.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 24, 2012, 07:12:24 pm Central Daylight Time
Make a second decklist man.  :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 07:14:14 pm Central Daylight Time
Nnnnnope **** that. :P  Back to this thread being inactive now. :D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 24, 2012, 08:38:04 pm Central Daylight Time
Fine then. I think it's a good idea to have two or three decks so neither of them get boring.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 09:19:07 pm Central Daylight Time
Don't wanna spend the cash for a game that isn't high on my importance list. :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on April 24, 2012, 09:22:18 pm Central Daylight Time
run something cheap as a secondary

like for example I could be running zetakaliberzektors and also be runnign dragons/ hero kid control

Your DW is your main deck, so pick something cheap and fun for a secondary, ideally creative, made of mostly common/reprints and stuff you have round spare.



Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 09:27:47 pm Central Daylight Time
Nah, don't want to make a decent Deck that'll still cost some nor do I wanna run a sh*t Deck. :P  YGO is whatevs to me.  I just stick around.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 24, 2012, 09:51:20 pm Central Daylight Time
I see how it is...


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 24, 2012, 10:12:53 pm Central Daylight Time
I'm doin' my job here. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 25, 2012, 09:39:13 pm Central Daylight Time
Thanks to Bakura for pointing out the new rules to the game. ;D

2 BTH have replaced the lone Solemn Warning & 2nd Torrential Tribute.  2nd TT was cool, but without the ability to prioritize Ignition monster effects, BTH provides solid defense without wiping my own field.  2nd CED is being kept over a 2nd TT to catch the small monsters BTH cannot.  Now Life Points costs are no longer a problem. :) Whoohoo!


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 25, 2012, 10:38:29 pm Central Daylight Time
No more Solemns? I'll have to change up stuff too.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 25, 2012, 10:42:30 pm Central Daylight Time
No more Solemns? I'll have to change up stuff too.

Nope.  No prioritized Ignition effects, no need.  Skill Drain will cover the rest.

If I do add DWL it will be after everyone else adapts to the new ruling.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 26, 2012, 12:59:28 am Central Daylight Time
Back to square one.

I remembered I relied on DCK when I drew a bs hand that needed another turn or two before I drew the right cards to make it work.  In the games I wa doing good I felt that I didn't need DCK, persuading me to go with CED.  I might end up using one of each instead if I feel a DCK is just "there" without really being needed.  Also I found that I was drawing extra discard outlets too often, so I removed Drag and kept both DWDs for consistency's sake.  +1 Sangan for safe albeit slow plays when I can't start off or continue strong.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 26, 2012, 12:59:35 pm Central Daylight Time
Hmm... So do you think Solemn Warnings will drop in importance in this game now. And the cost will start getting people to run something else?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on April 26, 2012, 01:45:39 pm Central Daylight Time
i think solemn warning is still useful/ needed on this format imean new rullings


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 26, 2012, 02:35:37 pm Central Daylight Time
Solemn Warning still has its perks to stop Zenmaines, Gorz, Dragonfly and Rabbit on the spot (Dinos = weak draws). People may still keep 1 Warning because it catches all Summons.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on April 26, 2012, 02:57:11 pm Central Daylight Time
I just plan to swap warning for trap hole and side BTH/ solwarn for decks that need them.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 26, 2012, 03:35:21 pm Central Daylight Time
Why not main Bottomless?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 26, 2012, 05:59:52 pm Central Daylight Time
Because they were talking about stoping the summon of Rescue Rabbit and smaller guys who start big moves.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 26, 2012, 07:31:16 pm Central Daylight Time
But it's still good.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 26, 2012, 08:34:09 pm Central Daylight Time
It does miss the little critters, but BTH is still very good now.  I think Warning vs BTH is preference.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 26, 2012, 08:46:51 pm Central Daylight Time
People are considering all kinds of crazy **** now.

Raigeki Break
Karma Cut
Chain Disappearance


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 26, 2012, 08:54:49 pm Central Daylight Time
The Traps with discard costs are gonna be dropped quick lol.  Chain Disappearance is interesting tech now, but I'd still leave it in the Side to be safe.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 26, 2012, 09:31:27 pm Central Daylight Time
I took out the 2nd DCK.  Could do things without it.  1 CED has come back in.  I'm actually wondering if I'll run 2 CED / 1 BTH instead.  BTH does an overall better job for defense, but CED will save my Grapha from the increasingly popular BTH.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 26, 2012, 11:26:28 pm Central Daylight Time
I know lol. I don't understand why running a -1 just got popular.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on April 27, 2012, 08:14:27 am Central Daylight Time
some -1's are temperorary, and some really end off being a +0 or +1 so certain ones(divine wrath, bribe, ect...) are not all bad.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 27, 2012, 10:21:49 am Central Daylight Time
Generally still not that good of a choice unless it's a lone piece of tech.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 27, 2012, 01:36:11 pm Central Daylight Time
It only helps Inzecktors a little bit.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 27, 2012, 03:34:22 pm Central Daylight Time
It makes sense if they wanna tech one. :)  *Didn't catch that autocorrect.
____

Wooow the Deck is much more consistent now.  Sangan is a welcome addition.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on April 27, 2012, 04:33:38 pm Central Daylight Time
well yeah, only DW can run a pile of -1's and pluss in the end. :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 27, 2012, 05:14:14 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah but I prefer not to have meaningless discards. Raigeki Break stops Ignition effects upon Summon now but doesn't seem worth it still.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 27, 2012, 06:18:28 pm Central Daylight Time
It ain't. :D  I wouldn't run it in any Deck.  Not that it downright sucks, but there are better choices.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 27, 2012, 06:43:14 pm Central Daylight Time
Like Phoenix Wind Wing Blast.  ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 27, 2012, 07:02:00 pm Central Daylight Time
I remember that card!  I remember it was a fairly popular choice.  But that was a different meta. :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 27, 2012, 08:44:22 pm Central Daylight Time
-1 MST | +1 DWL. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on April 28, 2012, 07:45:29 am Central Daylight Time
PWWB is still a solid choice, but the issue is people can usually recoup thier losses from the card easily, barring XYZ summons.

it's be one of the rare -1's I'd argue using multiple of in certain builds.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 28, 2012, 01:43:37 pm Central Daylight Time
DWL has been working out great.  The changes have brought the draws back to consistency.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 28, 2012, 04:16:51 pm Central Daylight Time
Good. They say Dark World Lightning is a -1 at best. Not all -1's are bad in my opinion. But right now I'm testing Mystical Space Typhoon to see which is better.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 28, 2012, 05:38:02 pm Central Daylight Time
The card itself is a -1.  Just like DWD.  They end up being effective +0's so what'd wrong with that? :)

I find the only real difference between the two is that one is a discard outlet (that's also a searchable f/d destroyer).  Performance-wise, DWL has better perks.  The only common cards it fails to destroy are Call & Chain.  MST can hit equipped Hornets, though I don't find Inzektors a problem.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on April 30, 2012, 03:59:21 pm Central Daylight Time
True that, and Regaki break is an alright choice for a Yubel deck. PWWB too. anything to make a dead monster in hand worth something.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on April 30, 2012, 04:21:50 pm Central Daylight Time
I'm just testing a few cards in the main deck now. The side deck will be the hard part.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on April 30, 2012, 05:48:43 pm Central Daylight Time
True that, and Regaki break is an alright choice for a Yubel deck. PWWB too. anything to make a dead monster in hand worth something.

That's a rogue Deck so it's an exception.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on May 01, 2012, 09:01:28 am Central Daylight Time
Total: 40
Outfitted in Gold Player's Choice sleeves

Monsters: 17
3 Grapha, Dragon God of Dark World
1 Goldd, Warlord of Dark World - Gold
1 Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World
3 Snow, Magician of Dark World
3 Broww, Huntsman of Dark World
1 Sangan
2 Trance Archfiend
1 Doomcaliber Knight
1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole - Parallel
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

Spells: 15
3 The Gates of Dark World
2 Dark World Dealings - Ultimate
1 Dark World Lightning
1 Card Destruction - Super
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Pot of Duality
1 Foolish Burial - Duel Terminal
1 Book of Moon
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm - Super
1 Mystical Space Typhoon - Ultra

Traps: 08
2 Skill Drain
1 Solemn Judgment - Ultra
1 Mirror Force - Ultra
1 Torrential Tribute - Ultra
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Compulsory Evaluation Device


Extra Deck: 15
Code:
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Fabled Leviathan
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Crimson Blader
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Dark End Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon - Ghost/Ultra/Secret
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Ancient Fairy Dragon
1 Ancient Sacred Wyvern - Ultimate
1 Dark Highlander
1 Chaos King Archfiend
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon


Side Deck: 15
Code:
1 Fabled Raven
1 Trance Archfiend
2 Wall of Illusion
2 D.D. Crow
2 Cyber Dragon
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Dark World Lightning
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Dust Tornado
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Compulsory Evacuation Device


Trainer you can edit this post if you want.

So why have Dust Tornado sided instead of a 3rd MST???




Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: BigStinkinApe on May 01, 2012, 10:43:15 am Central Daylight Time
So he can set the odd MST/ trap after blowing away your card. Right?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 01, 2012, 02:30:28 pm Central Daylight Time
Where did that deck come from?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 01, 2012, 02:40:55 pm Central Daylight Time
I made the change to the Main Deck without paying attention to the Side Deck.  I will fix that later.  Good eye, Arktic. :)
___

In other news, I traded $17 + 1 Solemn Warning for near mint Unlimited LOB Dark Hole & Monster Reborn. :)  A fair deal that is hard to come by (you'd need to go online but still have to pay the accompanying s/h fee).


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 01, 2012, 04:56:41 pm Central Daylight Time
That's a good deal. LOB Dark Hole is about $20 by itself.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 01, 2012, 05:20:50 pm Central Daylight Time
It's only $10, $8 in this one online store.  Monster Reborn is $15. o:

He heard him saying he was gonna sell a Ghost Black Rose for $15. :o
___

2-1 Inzektors guy who got me the deal; Game 3 = Triple Grapha overkill
2-0 Upstart/Reckless DW; mirror match condition made him flop.  I was one step ahead of him with 2 Gates after he used Card D. to avoid an early loss.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on May 01, 2012, 06:18:50 pm Central Daylight Time
nice updates oooverkill on your opp.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 01, 2012, 07:54:32 pm Central Daylight Time
Depends on where you get your stuff from.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on May 05, 2012, 08:14:27 am Central Daylight Time
That deck Fever is Trainer's from the OP I just reposted it for everybody to see without going to page 1

Because I dislike going back pages.



Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 05, 2012, 01:35:24 pm Central Daylight Time
Why do you have random card rarities listed? And a random Pot of Duality?


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on May 05, 2012, 01:59:44 pm Central Daylight Time
it works also for me fever that 1 random Pot of duality my reason using 1 needed it some times but not much and Dw needed to ss much and also it boost dw consistency i think you can use up to 2 on ocg they uses 3 to boost dw consistency


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 05, 2012, 10:43:11 pm Central Daylight Time
Why do you have random card rarities listed? And a random Pot of Duality?

I'm indicating the notable rare prints I have collected.

Pot of Duality boosts consistency in any Deck.  I find this tech particularly useful myself so I have kept it.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 01:20:56 am Central Daylight Time
Alright that's fine.  :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 11:24:27 am Central Daylight Time
So far my Deck has won every Inzektor match and all but 2 Matches lately.

My Inzektor friend used my Deck and (foolishly) lost 1-2 to LSS from initially poor draws w/o Grapha.  DCK + Mirror Force got him outta the Shi En + brethren assault to completely turn the tables, but the motherf*cker searched & Summoned a Beiige instead of Goldd. ::)  Kizan + Grandmaster wouldn't have killed him, and those 2 monsters were all the other guy had.  Game 2, classic Grapha play.  Game 3, which shouldn't have taken place if he played game 1 right, turn 1 Naturia Beast + Set Mirror Force killed the lucky Mole draw.  Downhill from there.

I also lost to Gem-Knights 1-2 from S/T clump draws again.  He got out a lot of Fusions + swarmed w/ Obsidian.  Quite good.  2nd Match I won 2-1 with smooth draws like normal.  He did get out Raious early to give me trouble, and Veiled my Mole which I took from Pot of Duality.  Game 1, Mole + 3x Grapha vs his one Set monster.  Game 3, CED bounced a Set monster to let me OTK.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 12:49:11 pm Central Daylight Time
Maybe you just run too much tech? The problems with my build was that whenever it was inconsistent, it because I didn't have a discard outlet or just discard outlets but no Monsters. Like I always say.

"Promote synergy!"


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 02:35:47 pm Central Daylight Time
Haha ;D  Well, it's a lot better than before when I had 15 monsters.  The techs are doin' their job.  I rarely draw mostly monster hands; it's always a bunch of staple Spells.  Mostly monster hands are still workable as long as I can have drawn a Trance Archfiend or searched one through Sangan.  I might add another monster if I feel it's necessary.

EDIT:
Fixed the Extra & Side Deck.  Not sure I even want to try fitting Dark Smog in anywhere because I don't think it is relevant to this meta.  Dino-Rabbits & Wind-Ups play out of the Deck and Inzektors are easy enough to deal with (2 Drains + 3 CEDs for them after Siding).  It is good against Dragons... but Smog does require me to have something I want to discard.  D.D. Crow is easier to play...


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 03:06:45 pm Central Daylight Time
Honestly I don't like Sangan in here. Only three viable targets.  :-\


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 03:13:39 pm Central Daylight Time
Honestly I don't like Sangan in here. Only three viable targets.  :-\

Sangan is particularly my favorite new card to my Deck. :)  Grabbing Trance Archfiend can be very important.  Sometimes I already have Grapha in the grave but I need a DW monster - Sangan solves this.  I've always had the need to raise consistency and Sangan does a fine job of it. :)

I thought it was slow/not needed before too.  As I played more and more I began to realize the Deck's flaws.
>_>;


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 04:45:09 pm Central Daylight Time
If it works for you. Unless Tour Guides are in, I wouldn't recommend it unless you had more important targets.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 04:55:51 pm Central Daylight Time
Probably leaving out DCK, Sangan/Mole and 1 Skill Drain for 3 Tour Guides.  I'll think about that once I actually have TGU's to play with.

But for now, Sangan does a good job, really.  Doesn't seem like a lot but Trance/Broww in your hand can really change things.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 05:03:12 pm Central Daylight Time
Probably right. I might side one for the mirror.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 06:14:08 pm Central Daylight Time
I guess you may want to heighten the chances of having one-sided discard outlets.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 06:33:29 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah if I'm in a mirror. I gotta take out Dealings and Card Destruction. Probably for more Traps. Then remove some Monsters for a little bit less Dark World Monsters.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 06:40:24 pm Central Daylight Time
I dunno, less DW = less consistent.  Maybe I would take out 1 Broww.  That doesn't sound too bad.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 06:55:09 pm Central Daylight Time
For the mirror? Just saying since if I have all those Monsters with no Dealings or Car Destruction, that will be a lot of hand clogging.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 06:57:54 pm Central Daylight Time
Smaller chance of having a monster to bring back Grapha.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 07:24:35 pm Central Daylight Time
I guess I'll just take those out and my Morphing Jar and those cards and replace them with Traps.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 07:30:32 pm Central Daylight Time
I guess I'll just take those out and my Morphing Jar and those cards and replace them with Traps.

Consider more Trance Archfiends (unless you run 3 which I think you do) & D.D. Crows first. ;)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 08:25:40 pm Central Daylight Time
3 is a lot.  :-\ Even with all the Dark World Monsters I run. Also, helps to escape the risk of Bottomless Trap Hole. But I use Lightning whenever I have the chance.

I wonder if Dark World decks should run Effect Veiler in the side. I'm using Debunk as side deck tech.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 08:35:52 pm Central Daylight Time
3 is a lot.  :-\ Even with all the Dark World Monsters I run. Also, helps to escape the risk of Bottomless Trap Hole. But I use Lightning whenever I have the chance.

I wonder if Dark World decks should run Effect Veiler in the side. I'm using Debunk as side deck tech.


o_o''' I think you said ya did run 3 before.  Well, it's acceptable in the mirror match when your Spell discard outlets are gone.

So I just remembered Dark Smog is relevant for the mirror match. :P  Gaddamit.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 10:03:44 pm Central Daylight Time
Yeah pretty much. And I was testing 3 probably at the moment.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 06, 2012, 10:14:23 pm Central Daylight Time
Eh f*ck dat shet I'm still not gonna get it. :P  I'm just gonna proxy my Sides if I ever play more serious games.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 06, 2012, 11:53:08 pm Central Daylight Time
Well it's good. If you can use one sided discard engines then you probably dominate. The OP will probably be tip toeing around your hand. My side deck is ready.  ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Bakura_yami on May 07, 2012, 12:17:51 am Central Daylight Time
i think u do not need any more efect veiler on sides if you have skill drain main already skilldrain > efect veiler heheh


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 07, 2012, 12:27:51 am Central Daylight Time
i think u do not need any more efect veiler on sides if you have skill drain main already skilldrain > efect veiler heheh

Yeah that makes sense.  ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 07, 2012, 06:59:22 pm Central Daylight Time
I want a Night Beam, but it is da expense.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 07, 2012, 07:06:39 pm Central Daylight Time
Night Beam isn't worth it. You can play around it. I wanted them only cause it was the only good Spell in the set lol. It will be good when Konami decides to Limit Mystical Space Typhoon again. 


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Sillva87 on May 24, 2012, 07:10:41 am Central Daylight Time
hey guys i'm back. i know this may be a little of topic but is there anyway i can download a way to play yugioh online. i think it was tcg? i need to get back into the game more cause the only thing i'm doing now is playing tag force 5 and using a remove from play build and a gravekeeper deck. lol i'm trying to beat tf5 that's all but i need to get back in the game, at least virtually.  in real life i own a somewhat decent rfp build like i mentioned and gk build. i need to go get those dark world structures. lol.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: ArkticDark on May 24, 2012, 12:27:42 pm Central Daylight Time
Not really anything worth while except Dueling Network and it isn't a download but an active website.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 24, 2012, 12:35:50 pm Central Daylight Time
hey guys i'm back. i know this may be a little of topic but is there anyway i can download a way to play yugioh online. i think it was tcg? i need to get back into the game more cause the only thing i'm doing now is playing tag force 5 and using a remove from play build and a gravekeeper deck. lol i'm trying to beat tf5 that's all but i need to get back in the game, at least virtually.  in real life i own a somewhat decent rfp build like i mentioned and gk build. i need to go get those dark world structures. lol.

Yep. DN would be the best way.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 24, 2012, 03:38:07 pm Central Daylight Time
Duel Recap

VS Bubble Beat

Duel 1: Anthony and I basically had all S/T draws for the majority of the game.  He began with Bubbleman, and I Summoned Mole.  He thought I was gonna bounce, but I said "Kill it."  Mole has 100 more ATK than Bubbleman. ;D  "Oh f*ck that, I'm just gonna Torrential."  Haha, he did not know! :P  I remember I draw MST 1 turn late after the turn he Warned my Broww to keep me from Summoning Grapha.  He later Reborned Grapha, I had Mirror Force. 

Near the middle, I somehow push him into only having Photon Thrasher + Miracle Fusion in his hand.  When he activated it, I paid 4000LP to declare holy judgment on the Spell.  I have Gate + a bunch of Spells (one of them being Card Destruction) in my hand while he had nothin'.  I used Gate, drop Grapha, draw Grapha; next turn Gate, drop Grapha, draw Gate. ::)  But I do slowly eliminate his Traps one by one.  And I have 3 Graphas in my Graveyard.  My friend pokes me twice with Bubbleman and has one card in his hand when I draw Goldd.  I Set Dark Hole and BTH before Card Destroying Goldd, Allow and Skill Drain.  I draw Trance Archfiend, DWD and another Spell.  Bounce the Goldd for Grapha #1, Gate Goldd for Grapha #2, DWD Goldd for Grapha #3, Normal Summon Trance and use its effect to discard Goldd.  OTK!!

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/2hegins.jpg)

Duel 2: This Duel went by much better for us both.  He Summons a monster and Sets 5.  Heavy Storm. *****please.jpg*  He Solemns that.  4000LP turn 1.  Cool.  I play Foolish+DWD+Goldd in hopes of getting Grapha, but Goldd is Warned.  I play Duality to grab Gorz, and Set my only other card - Sangan.  My friend gets Blade Armor Ninja, killing Sangan to allow me to grab Broww for Grapha.  "What did you get with Duality again?"  I throw down Gorz and we all laugh.  "Oh f*ck that sh**, go!"  I Summon Broww/Grapha next turn and kill his monster.  He draws his next card and gives up. xD
____

I let my friend Roger use my Deck after I had my fanatic victories.  When I check back, he used Gate + Beiige to get 2 Graphas.  Anthony plays Dark Hole and Sets a Trap.  Roger Summons Snoww, bounces for Grapha and discards Snoww with Gate.  I just remember he takes out cards from Anthony's field and wins.  Duel 2, Anthony Sets a monster and Trap, but Roger DWL'd the monster and Grapha'd the Trap.  Broww --> Grapha, game. :)

Gate's 300 boost to DCK's Atk has proved very useful. ;)  Tells 2100's to back up and matches Blade Armor Ninja. ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 24, 2012, 05:44:09 pm Central Daylight Time
Holy ****! Pictures.  ;D

Nice Field.  :o Shoulda got out Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon.  ;) Dark World tends to have a great match up against HERO's.

Cool customized deck box.  :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 24, 2012, 06:46:34 pm Central Daylight Time
**** auto correct changed "Anthony" to "anything."  Bit¢h-ass phone.Heheh it was so good that I had to pause and capture it. :P

:o If I had a copy of that I'd think about it.  I was actually afraid he had a lucky Gorz.  I don't even bring my Extra Deck on me anymore. :D

Haha Thanks Fever. ;D  I have my initials in gold & silver on the back.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 24, 2012, 07:09:12 pm Central Daylight Time
Even if he had Gorz he probably would have died from 4500 ATK lol. But Grapha wins games.  ;D


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 24, 2012, 07:54:24 pm Central Daylight Time
I don't remember Neo Galaxy-Eyes' effect.  Unless it can attack multiple times, he would survive.

But now that I think about it, even if he had Gorz  in his hand (the only card he would have besides that lonely face-up Bubbleman), I would still clean his field.  He already used Dark Hole too, and if he Miracle Fused The Shining I'd BTH him. :)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on May 25, 2012, 12:19:18 am Central Daylight Time
I don't remember Neo Galaxy-Eyes' effect.  Unless it can attack multiple times, he would survive.

But now that I think about it, even if he had Gorz  in his hand (the only card he would have besides that lonely face-up Bubbleman), I would still clean his field.  He already used Dark Hole too, and if he Miracle Fused The Shining I'd BTH him. :)


Yeah you can't use the effect but it still has 4500 ATK and overlaying 3 Grapha is just humiliation.  ;D

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120520031805/yugioh/images/d/d1/NeoGalaxyEyesPhotonDragon-GAOV-EN-UR-1E.png)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on May 25, 2012, 07:45:46 am Central Daylight Time
:D Yes it would be.  Maybe if he had a Utopia for Neo GE to detach material and attack twice. :P


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 21, 2012, 10:09:38 pm Central Daylight Time
He DWD'd, I discarded Broww and drew 2.  He popped my CED w/ Grapha.  He Card Destroys.  I draw 9 (had another Broww).  Lost Gorz though. :(  Small price to pay for having Grapha's secondary effect kick in and take his Raven.  I discarded 4 DW w/ Raven next turn.  I proceeded to draw and search out the rest of my Deck  He gave up before I was even done. :D

(http://i.imgur.com/gIqGt.jpg)


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on July 21, 2012, 10:44:37 pm Central Daylight Time
Haha well done. That guy has regrets now.  :L


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: PkMn Trainer on July 21, 2012, 10:47:10 pm Central Daylight Time
That guy made it fun for me. :D  He shoulda stopped at the first DWD.  He had the advantage.


Title: Re: Demon's Domain
Post by: Fever on July 21, 2012, 11:15:43 pm Central Daylight Time
It was a mirror match huh? Musta been a surprise.