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« on: June 18, 2010, 09:28:38 am Central Daylight Time » |
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it feels good to be back. lol. i've been working on a dark world deck that i've titled DWA. i kinda call it dark world rush because it's very consistent in drawing but my only issue is that fact that i'm not sure how to control the field for an OTK if possible. let me just give you a rundown of the deck and then please give me some ideas. all suggestions are welcome and i thank you before hand for ur advice. i've mentioned that i tend to draw a lot. i want the deck to be consistent all the way through, balanced in terms of swarm power, and drawing power. Control., (sort of) Monsters(22) 3 Goldd 3 Sillva 3 broww 3 destiny hero defender 2 Dark Necrofear 2 khakki 2 gren sangan morphing jar night assailant mask of darkness Magics(10) 3 dark world dealings 3 dark world lightning 3 dragged down into the grave card destruction Traps(8) 3 dark deal 3 dark bribe 2 appropriate So what do you guys think? i'm especially hoping to hear from pkmn trainer or Dark Overlord if he still exists. ciao
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 12:23:57 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I like how I'm mentioned before DWO. And yes, he's alive. Goes by "Fever" now.
First of all, do you have any Tuners and/or Synchroes? Dark World Decks really need them if they are to survive in today's meta. Otherwise they're crushed by other Decks.
The only Dark World monsters that appeal to me are Goldd and Sillva. Broww's been OK, and I'm starting to think about Kahkki again. However, you should only run Broww (maybe Kahkki) only after you have maxed out on Goldd & Sillva, 'cause those are your beatsticks and Synchro Material. No more than 9 Dark World monsters should be ran - that means up to 3 Browws should be used.
The best cards to discard your Dark World monsters with are Morphing Jar, Card Destruction, Dark World Dealings, and Dark World Lightning. The rest of the bunch ain't no good. Dragged Down into the Grave is hard to use effectively - it forces you to Set all S/T's. That makes you susceptible to Heavy Storm, and even if you get a Dark World monster discarded, you could still be disappointed if they pick Broww when you need a Goldd/Sillva on the table. Dark Deal's too situational (since your opponent gets to pick what to discard). The Cheerful Coffin and Fine are just crap, since they don't give you a secondary benefit (just mentioning them so you won't ever look towards them).
So if you could, update your Deck accordingly. Definite fixes will come later once we know what sort of cards you have.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 02:38:14 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Glad to know that he's alive lol. yes i have syncro monster materials. i have krebons and dark resonators. basic magics and traps. staples, as of heavy, space, giant trunade, swords, etc. traps such as mirror foce, torrential. i haven't been in for a while so you'll need to update me on the newest cards as in last 3 months or so. um.. other than that i have what i've mentioned. if you could just give me some fixes for this deck using what i've given u if possible.. thanks.
i've noticed that fever person was there that's y thought something had happened to him lol. thanks later.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 03:58:13 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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ok so this is what i have so far
3 goldd 3 sillva 3 broww 2 dark resonator 2 krebons 2 khakki 2 gren 2 dark necrofear morphing jar
magics 3 dark world dealings 3 dark world lightning card destruction heavy storm allure of darkness
Traps mirror force torrential tribute
that's all i have.. what can you give me to work with?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 05:00:07 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Now that I know what we can work with...-2 Krebons -2 Kahkki -2 Gren -2 Dark Necrofear -1 Dark World Lightning+1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind +2 Mystic Tomato +1 Brain Control +1 Mystical Space Typhoon +2 Bottomless Trap Hole +1 Call of the Haunted +1 Solemn JudgmentI took out all the unnecessary cards, and added in what you need. The basic skeleton's here at 32 cards. The rest of the cards are up to you. You could change the number of Dark World monsters (and therefore discarders) to run, but you'll need to keep consistency in mind.
3 Gravekeeper's Spy & 1 Descendant are good defense, and Descendant's effect is truly useful. Add 2 Krebons & 1 Emergency Teleport to this, and you'll have a lot of Synchro diversity. Arcanite, Brionac, Goyo... it's all possible. And since you're using Krebons (a Lv:2 Tuner conforms nicely with the meta), use Mind Control. This is probably the strongest option I can imagine. I actually built a Deck this way. o_o''' Thread's simply called "Dark World Synchro."
Choosing Skill Drain over Book of Moon or Bottomless Trap Hole may interest you. Skill Drain just screws over a lot of Decks and can save you, especially from the likes of enemy Caius & Brionac. ;o It's my personal favorite. Thought it may clash with the other monsters you may decide to use, the Dark World aspect of the Deck will be fine.
That's all I can think up of for now.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 08:19:46 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Thanks for your ideas. they are greatly appreciated. i will give it some test runs.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 08:57:07 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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You're welcome. I had Monk in my DWS build, but I didn't like how it turned out... e_e'' I literally came up with the simple GK + Krebons idea when I was typing that post. o_o''' Should work out much better.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 07:10:52 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Yes I am still alive. lol. Glad to see Trainer finally came around.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 01:54:29 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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i've been trying to come up with many combinations of dark world with other types of cards to make different kinds of decks. syncros are automatically part of my arsenal now so i won't mind if you guys include the basic tuners with syncro monsters. but this deck is a machine with dark world.. i call it cyber world... all ideas and suggestions welcome. you know what to do.. Monsters(18) 3 goldd 3 proto-cyber dragon 2 cyber dragon 2 dekoichi 2 blowback dragon 2 the light-hex sealed fusion barrel dragon sangan reflect bounder cyber phoenix Magics(15) 2 book of moon 2 dark world dealing 2 dark world lightning 2 power bond brain control card destruction giant trunade heavy storm limiter removal my body as a shield m.s.t. traps(7) 2 bottomless traphole call of the haunted mirror force solemn judgement torrential tribute black horn of heaven Extra(4) 2 cyber twin dragon 2 blowback dragon so what do you guys think? how could i improve it?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 07:24:45 am Central Daylight Time » |
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Not really much synergy. I don't believe it could be that consist honestly. Machines and Dark World just don't go together.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 01:55:42 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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ok so this is what i have so far
3 goldd 3 sillva 3 broww 2 dark resonator 2 krebons 2 khakki 2 gren 2 dark necrofear morphing jar
magics 3 dark world dealings 3 dark world lightning card destruction heavy storm allure of darkness
Traps mirror force torrential tribute
that's all i have.. what can you give me to work with? If you run krebons then you will need to run Beiige. For lv6 synchro. Try this.
MONSTERS: 20
Goldd x3 Sillva x3 Beiige x3 Broww x3 Gale Resonator x2 Krebons x2 Morphing Tomato x2
SPELL: 10 DWD x3 DWL x2 Card des Etele Heavy MST Mind Control
TRAPS: 8 or 9 Mirror Force Torrential Starlight road Solemn = if you cant get this then do a dark bribe or MBaaS or a 2nd Starlight road. Bottomless x2 this is a common cheap card, please get 2 Depth Amulet D prison x2
These traps are good and Dprison and DepthA are interchangable. I left some spell spots open for you. You need to add more discard spells or depth amulet. I personaly like dragged down. You dont really need allure.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 07:40:28 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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i left you a message in the other post explaing my issue with cards at the moment.. i honestly have no idea what starlight road is and it's not in tag force 4. so i don't have access to that, what would i use instead? and i do have 1 dark bribe, i don't have solemn. i honestly don't feel like giving my opponent 1 card but the payoff isn't bad for stopping a magic or trap. the only other magic cards that i know of that make you discard is the cheerful coffin and dragged down. but dragged down would force you to set all spells and traps. before you use it..
p.s. i had an appropriate deck in here or so i thought i'll post it after this cause this is one of my funnest dark world themes.. lol. please give feedback accordingly. thank you in advance.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 08:05:40 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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DWA* Dark World Appropriate*
Monsters(22) 3 goldd 3 sillva 3 broww 3 destiny hero defender 2 khakki 2 gren 2 dark necrofear
Magic(10) 3 dark world dealing 3 dark world lightning 3 dragged down into the grave card destruction
Traps(8) 3 dark deal 3 dark bribe 2 appropriate
what do you guys think, i know someone out there has some advice for me..
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 10:48:45 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Starlight road is an awesome card that can be used sorta like dark bribe and My Body as a Shield. (MBaaS). But it Special summons Stardust Dragon.Ok so you dont have depth amulet, d prison, Starlight or Solemn. ok then which other cards from both post are you missing?
Also Don't use darkDeal ever again please. if you have mirror force and torrential then never ever leave them out of any deck you post. Here is an updated spell and trap list to go with the last monster list. If you dont have gale you can use a 3rd resonator.
Spell: 15
DWD x3 DWL x3 Book of Moon x2 Dragged Down x2 Card des Etele Heavy MST Mind Control
TRAPS: 5
Mirror Force Torrential Call of H Bottomless x2
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 04:23:27 am Central Daylight Time » |
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ok i don't have krebons dark resonator e-teleport beiige depth amulet solemn mirror force of torrential
once again i net deck so i can use the actual cards in the game. and i listed what cards i actually do have that are important... in my other posts
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 11:11:42 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Net decking huh?
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 07:56:21 am Central Daylight Time » |
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yes netdecking for now lol. so do you have any advice or suggestions for my dark world appropriate deck? plz get pkmn trainer to get a look at it too.
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