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« on: April 10, 2012, 06:20:43 am Central Daylight Time » |
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This is a Turbo variation of Dark World that doesn't use Reckless Greed. It instead uses Magic Planter and a hefty amount of Continuous Traps. This deck utilizes Forced requisition with other Dark World support to keep the opponent's hand low and allowing a safer use of Dark Scheme. This is the Theory.
Monsters: 17 Grapha x3 Snoww x3 Broww x3 Beiige x2 Sillva x1 Goldd x1 Trance Archfiend x3 Grand Mole
Spells: 13 Magic Planter x3 The Gates of Dark World x3 Dark World Dealings x3 Dragged Down to the Grave x3 Card Destruction
Traps: 10 Dark Smaog x2 Skill Drain x2 Forced Requisition x2 Dark Scheme x2 Fiendish Chain x2 / or 1 with 1 CotH or 2 CotH
So this is the Theory and what I am working off of. Of course it is lacking defensive but it is the style of this type of deck. Testing will start soon.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 09:14:18 am Central Daylight Time » |
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I'd drop dark scheme's and one of the lords of DW for 2-3 safezone and 0-1 COTH/ deapth amulet.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 02:13:39 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Why run only one of each Goldd and Sillva but two Beiige?
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 04:02:26 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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You can summon beiige and bounce it to SS grepha, and not need a discard outlet, and it's a 1900 who normally does not suck, but also does not matter for DW to use.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 06:49:50 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I run three anyway but I'm just saying for his deck. If you don't have access to Grapha then he's fuct.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 08:23:13 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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^ Wait wat OK you seriously don't need 3 Beiige (2 surely means a sufficient # of low lv. DW) unless it really helps bring out Maestroke the Symphony Djinn. ___
Yup like BSA said, Dark Schemes out. You do have enough discard outlets, and better ones at that.
The problem here is the lack of S/T destruction besides Grapha. I think you'll have to trade a DWD & Drag for 2 DWL to help make up for it. This'll hurt Forced Requisition though... You will have to make up for the loss in Continuous Trap if you do this.
Definitely keep 2 Fiendish Chains.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 08:28:42 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I was wondering if I could get you guys to play this deck on DN just like I built it. Maybe just a few times. Just to help me test it in this form before I go changing things. I would like a few live opinions of this exact build from experience. Please if you don't mind.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 08:34:56 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Trainer it is necessary for my deck. You don't care for Beiige because of your control builds. I love it. But since this is Arktic's deck, the choice is his.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 08:39:28 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Unless you're pushing for Rank 4's, the spot for a third Beiige could be somethin' better. Like Mole.
2's OK though.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 08:44:26 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Snoww and Trance Archfiend are potentially 2000 beaters. But it isn't that hard to get Grapha because you got Foolish and 3 Graphas and 3 Snoww so that is 7 possible ways to get Grapha.
So really many Lords aren't needed for power cards when I already have 7 outlets to have a Grapha and then you can just keep using the same one over and over.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 08:53:15 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Unless you're pushing for Rank 4's, the spot for a third Beiige could be somethin' better. Like Mole.
2's OK though.
That's fine. Snoww and Trance Archfiend are potentially 2000 beaters. But it isn't that hard to get Grapha because you got Foolish and 3 Graphas and 3 Snoww so that is 7 possible ways to get Grapha.
So really many Lords aren't needed for power cards when I already have 7 outlets to have a Grapha and then you can just keep using the same one over and over.
That's your choice. I'm just saying in my testing, I have found that I win a lot of games because I run a lot of Lords and Monsters in general. I survive Torrentials and most importantly mirror matches. When you opponent uses discard effects, who is gonna have the advantage? The person with more Dark World Monsters or less? That's why I don't change my formula because it works. Even if nobody on here believes that, I will still use what works.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 09:09:32 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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More Lords can work.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 09:11:59 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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hmm... What about dead hands of high level monsters that you cannot discard because MST is at 3 and your Gates are getting blown up?
It is just kinda risky to carry more high level monsters... A bit...
If my opponent makes me discard Snoww or Grapha it will be awesome. And I gotz some Lords.
I got 5 high level monsters in my deck Fever, and remember back before the structure? When we were running 5 Lords because 6 were too many? So now we got Grapha and I will continue to run 5 high level DW monsters. See?
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 09:19:58 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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With Trance Archfiend I suppose supporting more Lords works. It's not a flat out bad idea anymore. I don't choose to because you can do without it in general match-ups (other cards can be more suitable). More power definitely helps in mirror matches, but my focus is on what's big right now.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 09:24:29 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I guess with DW winning recently it will be more present in meta again.
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 09:37:02 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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A little, but I'm sure there's a temporary spark in interest. When DW tops, it's only one guy. This time DW happened to win. People on Dino Rabbits will stay on Dino Rabbits lol.
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 07:45:01 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I run more Lords because:
1) Dark World Lightning 2) Gates 3) Trance Archfiend
If I ran 3 MST then my deck would be inconsistent. With all my Monsters drawing that when I need Dark World Dealings or something else is a killer. But it's all smooth now.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 12:16:45 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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grapha and Trance put a DW monster back in your hand for discarding too tho.
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