Karma Rant

[ArkticDark]

I posted this rant on Face Book. Just off the top of my head. Just tired of people sayin karma is a **** or they wanna do good to get good karma. And then turn around another moment and say stuff like I don't deserve that or I deserve this or it wasn't his time.

So here is my Karma Rant.

People always talk about karma. But they don't understand it really. You cannot only believe in a fraction of a concept. You have to believe in the entire concept of karma inorder to even talk about it IMO. There is a bigger picture to karma than shoving it in peoples faces to appease your rotten ego.

If karma were a real force effecting people then it is always in effect. In every moment of ever...yone's lives they are always getting exactly what they deserve, no matter what. Because karma says so. If it happened then it was supposed to happen and who ever it happened to absolutely deserved it. That is the way the concept works, or it doesn't work at all and stop talking about it.

Karma is a Buddhist belief and it transcends life and death. Karma follows your soul for eternity. And it effects you from past lives. You could be a good person and have bad things happen to you because of bad things you did in a past life. And your good deeds in this life will help you in the next life to have better karma.

It has had the same definition for thousands of years and If you don't wanna believe this then don't talk about karma. Because it's ignorance.

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And I am tired of people acting like they know what they deserve. That is such an egotistical statment. Are you so bloated in the head that you really know what you deserve? All you know is what you want. You want to think you know what you deserve. You couldn't possibly fathom what you deserve.

[Dragon in the Shadows]

Karma is bull...My opinion only, don't get your panties in a bunch.  And the reason it is bull is because there is no definite way to prove that one has been good or bad in a past life.  Sure one can go to a psychic, but 99.9% of them are frauds who just do it for money and/or fame (such as John Edwards and Edgar Casey).  But yet good things often happen to bad people.  And bad things happen to good people.  For example there are thousands of babies who don't live to see thier first birthday.  It is unreasonable to assume that mother, father and child have done some horrific act in a past life for them all to suffer at the same time.  My counter theory is sometimes  censored.gif happens...Regardless of past actions.

Now it is important for me to point out that I cannot say that past lives is an actual phenomenon.  Scientificly speaking engergy is niether created nor destroyed, it just changes state.  Thus entirely possible.

[Fever]

Karma is that thing below your rank. 

[Dragon in the Shadows]

Karma is that thing below your rank. 

- 1 for being a dumb ass
+ 1 for being a smart ass

[ArkticDark]

Yea A Chaotic reality could be very possible too.

But my rant is about people being ignorant and only using partial concepts instead of having truely profound understanding of what they are saying. Most people's words are so meaningless.

[BigStinkinApe]

I see the concept of Karma as highly possible. Even if you cannot prove the reality of past lives, one can see it in a generational sense. look at most people who's ancestors were plantation owners, or war criminals from WWI/II or civil wars before. They tend to be out of ork, out of cash and generally in the low rungs of society, OR hated by many and ostricized by ill-goten power and the company they keep.

The good you do now usually can be shown to translate, but only in a quasai-quantitative sense. Word or mouth and now media of other means all can show the good one person or many people can do in 1 act, and their actions can teach the next generation and generations after that.  It's up to each individual viewing/hearing/reading/ being told about that experience to decide what to do with that information themselves, but if it translates (IE my grandfather fought in the war and became a hero, and I was told of it and being someone who is more inclined towards to good, I decide to follow in his footsteps (past life proof?) and become a military man/ potential war hero).

I myself take the good with the bad because I do believe in that aspect of karma, I feel it makes sense considering the way of things and it resonates with me unlike the religion of my birth, christianity. I know I do not know enough about the religion of buddhism to to claim I am a buddhist, but as far as transcribed, followed religions go, it's as close as I get to being a believer in this sense.

 

[PkMn Trainer]

I don't think it's of any use to ponder about why things that aren't under your direct control happen.  Just be a good person and correctly handle what is under your control.  It's the simplest way to think about it, and it's the best way to do it.

Some people do use the term "karma" casually.  I don't think about that too much.  You can't prove it but you can't disprove it either.  If you believe in it, you'll find your own reasons as to why such and such happened.

[Dragon in the Shadows]

I see the concept of Karma as highly possible. Even if you cannot prove the reality of past lives, one can see it in a generational sense. look at most people who's ancestors were plantation owners, or war criminals from WWI/II or civil wars before. They tend to be out of ork, out of cash and generally in the low rungs of society, OR hated by many and ostricized by ill-goten power and the company they keep.

Lets look at this more realisticly since we have an Akum's Razor effect here.  Could the descendants of cival war plantation owners be out of work and/or low income and "in the low rungs of society" due to karma or due to signifigantly poor and sometimes no education?  Furthermore the stereotype of the ignorant hillbilly doesn't always bear out.  Georgia for example has areas of high, average and low intellectual populations.  It is no coincidence that the areas with better education are high income and the areas where schools are lacking have great moonshine...I mean are low income.

[BigStinkinApe]

I am well aware that education and power all factor into it. To my knowledge though, karma is above that, as it would be the quintensiential force which keeps and puts all things into certian motions and lets things play out as they are to.

IF I am right about that(which I think I am but am not sure, then would that not mean that inspite of poor educational influence and lack of monetary basing, karma was still the cause of this? Karma could also be argued for the reason why places are still thriving thanks to education and proper upbringing in such areas as well, no? (AH, so this is what it's like arguing FOR the side of religion...I'm so used to being on the other side, where you have to more or less prove your point. )

[ArkticDark]

Hahahaha! BSA is funny.

Yea it would be an all encompassing invisible force that effects if your soul is placed in an environment of poverty or it keeps you from grasping the oppurtunity to rise from such an environment. Basically that is it.

And it would mean that a soul with bad karma could be reincarnated as a bug or a baby that dies as an infant to a pair of parents that have bad karma looming over them. So it could be like the law of attraction also playing along with Karma.

That is two invisible forces at work there...

[Fever]

I don't think it's of any use to ponder about why things that aren't under your direct control happen.  Just be a good person and correctly handle what is under your control.  It's the simplest way to think about it, and it's the best way to do it.

Some people do use the term "karma" casually.  I don't think about that too much.  You can't prove it but you can't disprove it either.  If you believe in it, you'll find your own reasons as to why such and such happened.

I agree. 

[ArkticDark]

Hmm... Well then.