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« on: September 09, 2012, 11:21:30 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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1) Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Enough said really. It shifts everybody's deck just to play this card. Chaos This and Chaos That. Tired of this broken card being dropped on me because I clear the Field. The summoning requirement is a joke and it is powerful as ****. Should never be legal.
2) Chaos Sorcerer
Annoying as ****. Not on a BLS scale but still busted with the removal and easy summon.
3) Rescue Rabbit
One of the most failed cards ever made in terms of trying to learn from the mistakes of a previous card. Such as Rescue Cat. The last two lines of this card pointless. Needs to be banned.
4) Monster Reborn
BLS and other **** in the same format? Konami, you fail. Monster Reborn is a sacky broken card that should never be legal.
5) Dark Hole
This is just unnecessary with 2 Torrential Tribute around. Most of the time it is just used to get rid of one annoying Monster. It's an OTK enabler and it should be banned.
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 01:54:56 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Hey f*ck you I like Monster Reborn. >
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 04:10:08 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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BLS is not that hard to get around, most of the time I just head butt it with grapha. if you're running geargia as main now just ram your fortress into it, take 500, and kill it. when you think about it, the only time BLS is more useful than any other card in a good deck is if your opponent is stuck with a sh*t hand and 1 or 2 cards on the field. Also, doesnt everyone run bottomless & compulsory now that priority is no longer a problem? It's dark world society, compulsory to hand then dragged down/mind crush to grave. gone. But you have a valid point as this card is not sometimes, but usually a gamebreaker for someone who is unprepared.
Same for Sorc. Just not as hard to kill.
Rescue rabbit is not that great, its range of use is like 1 deck. I thought that only splashable cards got banned, this is in no way splashable or game breaking. Reascue cat was an a55h*le that could be used in GB's, X-Sabers(*chills*), anything that felt like running 3 airebellum and a black panther, and of course, its own deck. Which was Cleaner, Faster, and more Conssistant than dino rabbit. 2 Rabbits hinders the deck enough. If it was inconssistant before, its way worse now. If it was at 1 it would just never be used... Ever. Its actually easier to get out a dolkka or laggia out with a ninja variant than dino rabbit.
Monster reborn, understandable. 3 call of the haunted + any cards that revive for any given archetype/type/attribute. Yeah this needs to go...
Same, 3 field wipes + card effect field wipes. Needs to go.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 05:34:36 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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While I can agree with most of this, I feel voicing such opinions only leads to people calling the person voicing said opinions "butthurt" and a "complainer".
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 07:30:56 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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CED does **** to BLS. That would be a waste. Rarely ever will I have BTH down when they drop Sack Luster Soldier.
BSA, you can voice your opinion. Just nobody troll mine.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 07:59:51 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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He has a point, Fever: Funny, right? Look closer. You see how this joke picture shares the same reasoning Death is using?
Basically, what you're saying is "X is not broken because a Trap can stop it." Under that logic, Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon, Archlord Kristya, Goyo Guardian and Dark Strike Fighter are not broken either.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 08:02:50 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I know. That's why I hate when people say that. "Oh it's easy to get around. Use this card." Uh, counters don't make a card any less broken. That's why we have a ban list.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 05:32:17 am Central Daylight Time » |
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Didnt say BLS wasnt broken, just said its easy to kill but like pkmn said, right now its pretty easy to get around anything if you have like 1 card that destroys stuff but say... Grapha because he can SS himself and use a virus if he were to be banished. But since Grapha can only be used in Dark World and Chaos Dark world(which isnt that great and a little slow) he will probably never be banned, and I stress, Probably. But BLS is a Problem in general, that fact that he is ABLE to be a gamebreaker in basically any deck that runs tour guide which almost every deck does, is bad. but the title of the thread is Five Cards I Want Banned Right Now by Fever not Chayse Wagner so I'll shut up... For now.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 08:57:05 am Central Daylight Time » |
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Didnt say BLS wasnt broken, just said its easy to kill but like pkmn said, right now its pretty easy to get around anything if you have like 1 card that destroys stuff but say... Grapha because he can SS himself and use a virus if he were to be banished. But since Grapha can only be used in Dark World and Chaos Dark world(which isnt that great and a little slow) he will probably never be banned, and I stress, Probably. But BLS is a Problem in general, that fact that he is ABLE to be a gamebreaker in basically any deck that runs tour guide which almost every deck does, is bad. but the title of the thread is Five Cards I Want Banned Right Now by Fever not Chayse Wagner so I'll shut up... For now.
Wtf you are misinterpreting my point.
Saying "X can be solved by Y" is crap. You are to judge a card correctly by how easy it can be to use/abuse and how threatening it is. Just because a counter exists does not make a card balanced.
If you do acknowledge BLS to be a "gamebreaker" as you said, then you should understand me.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 12:44:11 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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maybe you read the post wrong Trainer... Reads like he got you.
Hmm... Cards to ban?
BLS Monster Reborn Dark Hole
And not much else really deserves it. Just the stuff that has been taken off the Baned list recently.
It was there for a reason.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2012, 01:58:57 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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I did understand. you said X kills Y and thats not a valid reason for a card not to be banned because you could do that to pretty much any card, I get it. So I said its easy to kill if you had 1 of the many destruction cards, but so is everything else but Grapha. basically used the same reasoning you use, just different words.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 06:55:33 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Hmmm I don't know.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 10:41:54 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Grapha is strong. Having him in play isn't instantly game-breaking however.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2012, 12:34:08 am Central Daylight Time » |
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Grapha is a perfect boss Monster
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2012, 04:10:53 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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A deck without any type of removal is pretty much screwed.
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 09:03:34 pm Central Daylight Time » |
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Unless their "removal" is in crazy big-ass monsters.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2012, 01:55:02 am Central Daylight Time » |
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Or if you have a boss with tons of negation or prevention.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2012, 06:25:28 am Central Daylight Time » |
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A big boss that locks shet down is always annoying.
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